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william.maggos

@davew @jaredwhite

it's not a podcast if it's not decentralized, if the creator and listener have to share a corporate overlord in addition to a format/technology?

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Dave Winer ☕️

@wjmaggos @jaredwhite

it's much simpler.

if there's no feed it's not a podcast.

all that stuff is your spin.

william.maggos

@davew @jaredwhite

I understand and agree but why does this stuff matter? perhaps our failure to make these points is why these arguments never end. why we have to fight these battles over and over again. we don't educate the public about the importance of the structure or ways of building or consuming or distributing. it would be like having the structures of voting or markets or journalism without understanding what reasoning led us there. people would be vulnerable to every new charlatan.

Sérgio Carvalho

@wjmaggos @davew @jaredwhite
The first step towards consumer education is abolition of market confusion. A podcast is standards based, open distribution ecosystem. Anything else needs another name: audio show, Spotify talk radio, whatever.

Then, consumers can choose what they want. The current conflation of terms prevents user choice.

Dave Winer ☕️

@wjmaggos @jaredwhite

you have to fight only because you want to and there are trolls who are willing to help you.

william.maggos

@davew @jaredwhite

I fight cause I care about the world and have a daughter and think everyone should have health care and think decentralized media/tech moves us closer to better outcomes that serve the general public than media run by big money that misinforms people through ads and algorithms and gatekeeping. maybe fight is the wrong word, but I make my case (while trying to avoid bad faith trolls etc). most people are just differently informed or coming from very different life experiences.

Yancy Burns

@davew @jaredwhite @wjmaggos so, your definition (which I agree with) comes from “cast” in podcast. You “cast” it out on the net for people to listen to.

I’d also like to posit that a show that is 6 hours long also is not a podcast. From the “pod” part of the name, it should be a collection of small, easily listened to shows, not a 6 hour lecture.

Alex Chaffee

@beowuff @davew @jaredwhite @wjmaggos

no, the "pod" part of the name means you can play it on your iPod -- it's just a portmanteau from 200x of "ipod broadcast"

sorry for "well actually"ing if you were kidding, but I think it's important not to revise history. especially when the main inventor of RSS is in the chat

Joshua

@beowuff @davew @jaredwhite @wjmaggos pretty sure pod comes from iPod there. *That* is a terminology issue that's long settled though

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