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Urban Hermit

@cavyherd @edsuom @samir Yeah, I have used DuckDuckGo as my default search engine in Firefox for more than 10 years, I get the results I have asked for, and their image search is a fast way to locate relevant results too. Google is the Walmart of search, you get only what everybody else wants, with a strong biased towards corporate products. If I could only find a good alternative to YouTube, which is now a morass of popups and subscription asks.

Jack Yan (甄爵恩)

@Urban_Hermit @cavyherd @edsuom @samir Is Dailymotion or Vimeo a good YouTube alternative? We use both for work and they suit us well.
Sadly, I gave up using DDG (a.k.a. Bing) a month shy of my 12th anniversary with them as my default last year. The Bing index has collapsed in a big way, and I need to run site: searches on it for a work site. Really disappointed it let me down so badly, but luckily I came across @Mojeek.
Happy DDG is still doing its job for you all, but Iʼve become wary. 🙁

Cavyherd

@jackyan @Urban_Hermit @edsuom @samir @Mojeek

Both Dailymotion or Vimeo seem viable. I've never dealt with them from the content creator side, but a lot of creators I know & respect tend to use Vime.

Wait—DDG is Bing? I.e., Microsoft? I...thought they were some entirely independent outfit?

Oh, I see. It "partners" with Bing. 🤔.

AIUI, it's chief virtue is lack of user tracking?

Jack Yan (甄爵恩)

@cavyherd @Urban_Hermit @edsuom @samir @Mojeek Sorry, I need to clarify: DDG (and Yahoo, Ecosia, Qwant, Neeva and others) license their results from Bing. The results are the same, which sadly means they are terrible! (The index gets smaller and smaller based on my research, so if you need something specific, it could be tricky.)
DDG says it doesnʼt track, though there has been some doubt over that lately.

Cavyherd

@jackyan @Urban_Hermit @edsuom @samir @Mojeek

Oh sigh. Welp, sounds like it's just as well I haven't thrown in my whole lot with them ::grumble::

Jack Yan (甄爵恩)

@cavyherd @Urban_Hermit @edsuom @samir You can supplement your searches with @Mojeek, and you can have DDG at the bottom of each page of Mojeek hasnʼt given you the right result. With a relatively small user base, Mojeekʼs ordering isnʼt the best, but it will improve if more of us use it.

Dave MacFarlane

@Urban_Hermit @cavyherd @edsuom @samir You could try to upload a Grammarly ad to PeerTube or Vimeo and just keep it playing on a loop to recreate the YouTube experience.

EarthMomma

@Urban_Hermit There is only one thing in my mind that GOOGLE is not good for and its exactly what is complained about here.

Google only shows you what everyone else wants to see. Google shows you only what everyone else is searching. Google news shows you what is being clicked on the most and thats where the deficit becomes a tool.

I use Google news to see what the regular folks are looking at and what they want to know about.

This is why I know that mainstream people who normally do not pay any attention to the news and politics are just BARELY, barely aware of all that happened with Trump.

They are just now starting to get this news trickled out to where their level of awareness is.

So I use GOOGLE to spy on the location of the general populace that does not pay attention to anything but GOOGLE to judge where we are in this whole loop of life.

DuckDuckGo for everything else.

@Urban_Hermit There is only one thing in my mind that GOOGLE is not good for and its exactly what is complained about here.

Google only shows you what everyone else wants to see. Google shows you only what everyone else is searching. Google news shows you what is being clicked on the most and thats where the deficit becomes a tool.

Kindness is scary

@LaNaehForaday @Urban_Hermit
Goggle.com? Goggle.net? What is Goggle? Or was that a typo?

EarthMomma

@qurlyjoe

I edited the post for you so your brain doesnt get hung up on a stupid and OBVIOUS typo... ... ...

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