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Григорий Клюшников

Down10, "We’ve redesigned and modernized the core experience to be cleaner, more inviting, and easier to use."

That's very much subjective and doesn't look like a real problem needing a solution nearly as drastic as making a new UI from scratch. I'm pretty sure the old UI was "easy to use" enough. I mean it's a web browser. Everyone knows how to use one. "Cleaner" is the plague that has infected many UIs these days. Yeah sure just hide everything 10 levels deep into menus, it'll be fine. Then remove those features altogether because "no one was using them". "More inviting" is straight up marketing bullshit.

Down10, "We’ve redesigned and modernized the core experience to be cleaner, more inviting, and easier to use."

That's very much subjective and doesn't look like a real problem needing a solution nearly as drastic as making a new UI from scratch. I'm pretty sure the old UI was "easy to use" enough. I mean it's a web browser. Everyone knows how to use one. "Cleaner" is the plague that has infected many UIs these days. Yeah sure just hide everything 10 levels deep into menus, it'll be fine. Then remove...

Bradley :smugcat: replied to Down10

@Down10 @grishka @Gargron

Let me put it another way, Grishka. A more direct way.

They redesigned Firefox to be in line with modern aesthetics to be appealing to the vast majority of the existing and potential user base, not fringe weirdos like you.

Bradley :smugcat: replied to Eugen

@Gargron @Down10 @grishka

You're right. There's no reason for me to be rude.

But Grishka expecting time to stand still just to suit his non-mainstream tastes is unrealistic.

That being said, Grishka could just continue to use the old version or fork it and update it himself. That's more likely than having a mainstream product never get a visual makeover.

Григорий Клюшников replied to Bradley

Bradley, I myself use Vivaldi, one of the reasons being that it simply never changes. Updates only update the engine, add new features and fix bugs. There haven't been any significant UI redesigns ever since the first stable release.

I don't "expect time to stand still". I just hate this kind of unnecessary churn, and fashion, in general. UIs don't have expiration dates on them. They don't perish if you don't change them every X years. If something works, leave it alone unless your changes are going to result in a noticeable improvement for the user.

Bradley, I myself use Vivaldi, one of the reasons being that it simply never changes. Updates only update the engine, add new features and fix bugs. There haven't been any significant UI redesigns ever since the first stable release.

I don't "expect time to stand still". I just hate this kind of unnecessary churn, and fashion, in general. UIs don't have expiration dates on them. They don't perish if you don't change them every X years. If something works, leave it alone unless your changes are going...

Григорий Клюшников replied to Bradley

Bradley, "modern aesthetics" is like fashion. It brings no practical benefits whatsoever — it's change for the sake of change in its purest form.

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