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Meanwhile, it just occurred to me to have a look at what the Twenty Twenty Three WordPress theme is like. I got excited when I saw how plain and simple it looks, but they've totally changed how to customise it. So the old menus option under appearance is gone and I can't for the life of me figure out how to have my sub menus sitting under the main menus anymore. Typical... they finally have a nice default theme but they make everything else worse.