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 Wait, I never said giving users control of privacy and safety isn't great, it is. Quote tooting doesn't do that. One can build out user controls over safety and privacy without building quote toots. In fact, it is likely technically easier to do without building quote toots at the same time. 6 comments
Yes, paid moderation could be invaluable to allow the platform and the people on it to flourish. Yes, increasing and making robust safety is essential not just for growth but even for what already exists. Yes, there should be vivid discussion about how to make things safer, for everyone, but especially for the most vulnerable. Quote toots aren't it. They make things less safe. And every moment & dollar & resource spent on quote toots is not available for safety. They don't make things less safe. They can be abused. Just like this entire platform. Just like every single aspect of online communication. If we can't figure out a way to open roads, to increase the complexity of our communication...the we're evolved to...then we should all get offline right now forever. I'm not sure that this has to be all or nothing. Yes, on Twitter, quote tweets increased engagement and much of that increase is fighting at the most mild and dangerous things in the less mild. Can we maybe have a quote re-share feature on Mastodon and the Fediverse that is safe, theoretically yes. If we can't do both those things immediately is the only other option abandoning online communication, no. No, I'm saying your position so black and white you could use it to discount 100 percent of all social risks online. Mine is the one saying there is flexibility and room to make something better. But you're dying on the absolute weirdest hill. A brand change makes it a different feature. None of it is that far apart from comments, upvotes, boosts, whatever. It's just another type of integration And as with all innovations it'll find a way to happen, ad hoc or not @davidaugust @Gargron If you do not have a path that is established within a function, quote toot, whatever, screen caps, (photoshopped?) out of context sharing, manipulated visibility through boosts, all of these actual things that can muddy the waters for the sharks... You can't moderate them. You can't ticket them. You can't trace them. You're just asking abusers to freelance their methods. A feature can be *enforced.* Twitter was SO bad at this...Eli Lilly lost a billion dollars. |
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We're not talking about those things independent of QTs, though, so I don't see what your point is.
This platform, specifically the largest instances, needs paid moderators and that's the bottom line no one wants to deal with because it fucks with the party line. But if they're serious about safety, that's it.