Gregory's Server@Gargron It's convenient sometimes but copying twitter is what bugs me...
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@wiredfire Coming from there myself, I've often missed these features but I've come to appreciate that Mastodon is not the same, and it's not made to generate excitement or "go viral". This is what makes it a much better place to be. Giving in to demands of people who want a bird site clone means giving up Mastodon's "USP". @wiredfire  @salino @wiredfire @Cocohead @Gargron Is there data showing the lack of quote re-share is a major obstacle to adoption? I'd love to read about that.  @salino @wiredfire @Cocohead @Gargron Doing it could have the same effect. @salino @Cocohead @Gargron it’s a massive concern about the direction being considered. As you suggest, today quotes, tomorrow global search? I really hope not. Or maybe this will fracture Mastodon. Maybe we’ll get a well supported fork that sticks with the current (?) principles for those servers that want it. We’d all still be able to keep in touch thanks to ActivityPub while not following the Path of the Bluebird. @wiredfire @Cocohead  @Cocohead @Gargron yes as it does of course fork the original discussion into lots of separate fragments, instead of plain boosts drawing everyone into that original discussion which helped the original poster. I am now understanding why Mastodon had it this way, as it added to the central discussion for everyone. It will change how and where discussions happen, but maybe a poll is good idea too to what users want.   @danie10 @Cocohead @Gargron Interestingly, I always felt that this "Draw all discussion in" was a weakness, not a strength. It made it too easy to hijack a conversation. I'd see people talking about important issues, personal problems, whatever, and comment number 12 is a crowd-pleasing sidetrack and suddenly the important issue is abandoned and the original discussion is derailed. @danie10 @Cocohead @Gargron I was taught early on, in my Twitter days, that if my comment no a post doesn't add directly to the original conversation, then it's simply good manners to QT instead. I can have my discussion, and OP can see it, but in a way that doesn't silence OP by robbing them of their audience. @danie10 yeah. I mean i don't mean to assert that there's a single correct answer, one true way or anything, all my arguments here are just meant as data points to help steer the final decision. I don't know that quoting is truly that valuable, just that I see a lot of flawed reasoning in some of the arguments against it. It might still be bad regardless. |
@Cocohead @Gargron same. There’s very very good reasons that quotes have not been done on Mastodon, and if someone really wants it they can hop to a server that’s got the feature - such is the joy of open source.
I don’t like this first step of diluting the vision of Mastodon.