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Sean Lake: famous ballet :bc:

@rodhilton He lost me real early on with his weird hardcore rationalist talk.

I’ve read some in depth hardcore rationalist articles before. They were complex and took some time and thought, but I understood them without an excess of difficulty, so I guess they did well explaining. It was sometimes very interesting as thought experiments, but it tended to be so incredibly limited by often unstated assumptions of scope that that’s as far as it went. And that’s fine, except there are some people who take it deadly serious and do not seem to recognize that perhaps you can’t actually do things like control interactions in advance to prevent anyone from ever deciding to hurt you by being a person on whom threats don’t work? It gets outright mystical at times.

So I had some idea of what he’s been talking about regarding AI for a long time now, and it’s. Frankly it’s so ridiculous that I stopped listening to him entirely almost immediately because it made me so incredibly tired.

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Sean Lake: famous ballet :bc:

@rodhilton I suspect that he has spent a long time signaling to intellectually insecure people who hang their self worth on the notion of their own intelligence that he’s officially smart because he understands the convoluted rationalist stuff. Who’s gonna risk revealing themselves as a faker who just wasn’t smart enough to get it by asking questions?

iteration523 :kverified:

@robotrecall @rodhilton In essence, the same grift JBP is doing. Or Trump, for that matter. Only he does it with cars, not with self-improvement books or politics.

Sean Lake: famous ballet :bc:

@iteration523 @rodhilton Pretty much, except I feel pretty comfortable assuming that Jordan Peterson is fully possessed of the capacity to know that he’s grifting, and Trump seems to take pride in it. I don’t know if this is an accurate read on it or a product of my own assumptions, but Elon Musk very much struck me as a victim of it at first, though he has absolutely become a perpetrator regardless of whether that’s true.

Sean Lake: famous ballet :bc:

@iteration523 @rodhilton None of these guys are supervillains any more than they’re superheroes. That’s giving them way too much credit. They’re just people.

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