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Tube❄️Time

it's a little loose but not a bad fit. I designed this based on photos of a real bracket, so the dimensions are probably slightly wrong

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Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

today's status: i'm having issues with the joystick port. the machine thinks it is pegged to the lower right even when it is centered.

Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

the design is not an ADC. it uses a quad 555 timer with RC circuits composed of the external joystick resistance and 22nF capacitors. the Apple IIe just measures the time it takes to exceed the threshold.

Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

it's just barely pegged at 250 or so. 2.8ms. the resistance is 87.8K, so this RC curve implies a capacitance of 68nF. that can't be correct.

Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

inspecting the board reveals corrosion on the pins of an 'LS125, some of whose pins are wired into the joystick inputs (for some reason). i think the capacitor (already recapped C2) spilled electrolyte all over this area.

Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

i removed the 'ls125. there was definitely a puddle of electrolyte underneath (it crackled and fizzed during desoldering). note that the potentiometer connection (red arrow) is right next to a pin tied to ground (blue arrow). electrolyte is conductive, so maybe it was creating a leakage current.

Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

removing and cleaning the area helped quite a bit! it's not perfect so i think i have more cleaning to do.

Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

i'm also thinking that the etched/oxidized solder joints in combination with the spilled electrolyte formed an electrolytic capacitor with about 45nF of capacitance. yeah that would do it.

Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

so what does the 74ls125 do in this circuit? it's just discharging the timing capacitors. the NE558 also does this, so the 74ls125 is connected in parallel. I guess it... helps?

Tube❄️Time replied to Tube❄️Time

regardless i went and cleaned the board again more thoroughly, and it's working a lot better now. i'll replace the damaged 74ls125 later.

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Tube❄️Time replied to DELETED

@homelessjun the NE558 already does that though.

Karl Gutwin replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime Did you figure out what the ‘LS125 is doing there? I looked it up and guess it’s just a buffer. ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn54ls12

Tube❄️Time replied to Karl

@kgutwin it has the ability to pull the joystick lines low. no idea what this was for, none of the other apple II compatibles have it

William D. Jones replied to Tube❄️Time

@tubetime Ahhh, so IBM _wasn't_ the only company that used an RC circuit as an integrating ADC :'D!

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