@darius hm, we have vastly different experiences it seems. Docker has made my life sooo much easier, would be hard to imagine doing without it.I mostly just don’t touch anything that doesn’t support it- why would chase all the different dependencies of an app, and figuring out how to upgrade them all, all without without messing with other apps that I want to run on my server. Ssl termination for any container solved simply by adding a few traefik labels to docker compose, simple magic :)