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@Firesphere @aurynn @xssfox entirely possible, and very definitely easy if you host domestically! I'm not aware of many local companies that transit them for _domestic_ as it's more expensive to do so. I don't know why Solarix are, but my guess would be that they want it for mitigation reasons. "Magic Transit" isn't cheap really vs normal IP transit. Either way, most of your stuff goes NZ ISP -> CloudFlare -> Solarix -> Catalyst from what Atlas traces tell me.  @Firesphere @aurynn @xssfox didn't think I was going mad; I did mention it in the past (April). The RIPE Atlas link I shared has a traceroute from most ISP's in NZ and basically all - even Spark - transit CF to get to Solarix and then to Catalyst ๐คทโโ๏ธ https://atlas.ripe.net/measurements/47551069/#probes the โน on the right-hand side shows the traces, if you want to check my checking ๐ @Firesphere @aurynn @xssfox to clarify, New Zealand Internet Exchange Inc is an NFP, not tied to CloudFlare or any one company. Everyone just peers there (and Megaport, which you may see in some other traces from atlas) hence it being so obvious in the trace. You can see the same from Voyager in the South Island as it traverses peering down there in CHC. @Firesphere @aurynn @xssfox They publish the stuff from AGM's no secrets really - https://ix.nz/2022/10/10/news-from-the-agm/ - aside from that they have done huge amounts for uplifting peering domestically. ix.asn.au is the Aussie side, they got ix.nz kick started over here. @alexs @Firesphere @aurynn @xssfox FWIW from here (Vodafone HFC, ie DOCSIS FTTN) path is Vodafone (under several names of former purchases), 3 hops of random 198.41.237.0/24 nodes (~6 IPS returned per hop), and then Catalyst edge. All of 198.41.128.0/17 is CloudFlare. I donโt see any Solarix hop at all in my path. The early 203.167.245.0/24 hops are Vodafone. First Catalyst named hop is 202.78.247.22, which is a Catalyst IP. @ewenmcneill @Firesphere @aurynn @xssfox More digging indicates Catalyst are seemingly directly up-streamed by CloudFlare also (BGP routes from Atlas) and your path indicates that also. For your route, Vodafone private peers with CloudFlare so you'd see the most direct path. Also, you can see the same in Aussie. ๐คทโโ๏ธ @alexs @ewenmcneill @aurynn @xssfox the more I see, the more I'm like "this company has a finger in every bowl of porridge" with or without us knowing @ewenmcneill @xssfox @Firesphere @aurynn yes I hate that too. Check IRD as another example, or RBNZ. @aurynn @xssfox screenshot above @Firesphere but also here's an Atlas run which will show from 70+ locations, https://atlas.ripe.net/measurements/47551069/#probes |
@aurynn @alexs @xssfox ah, in that way, yes... It is indeed ๐ฃ. I thought you meant as core infra provider.
I'm curious if it is even possible to have any route that does not touch cf?