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@mitgibs @stux i have an exemple for you. This the same place in Prague, before the cars there was public transport walkable streets and space for people. Now it's a place always filled with trafic. Cars will always be needed because public transport isn't suited for everything (ex:a remote village where 6 people live). U can greatly diminish cars in city thanks to public transport. AND NO we didn't re-purpose space We created a horrible place for cars.

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@xVAF @mitgibs @stux
These are from different time periods with different tech and the scale of population difference in the city through the 2 pictures is immense. Also you claim public transit can't service a remote village, sure it can. A road is more costly to build than a train track. And the claim at the end doesn't make any sense.

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@xVAF @mitgibs @stux
Wait, realize you were saying the inverse of what I thought you were, take what I said back. Whoops.
(except for the part about cars being necessary, that's wrong.)

VAF

@leet @mitgibs @stux yes public transport can service remote villages but there are some that just can't be serviced by it (villages in: mountains, hardly accessible places. Would like trains to fix everything but it's not possible). Cars are needed for all sorts of things (not everyone needs one), there are jobs that especially need one (plumber,electrician,ambulance,police) that isn't the bigger part of the population, it's like 5% of the cars on the streets, there is also disabled people.

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@xVAF @mitgibs @stux
Inclines, monorail (not the kind your thinking of, see "youtube.com/watch?v=Ei6LKHNFpe"), and cable car are all solutions to this first problem, it doesn't just have to be trains, that was an example. Yes the disabled exist, yes motored wheelchairs exist. That one was easy. And finally you bring up services, yes, services need vehicles, but I, personally, believe that sticking them on tram lines is best to make them completely predictable, except ambulances, which I do not know.

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@xVAF @mitgibs @stux For an ambulance you might use a car-type, or a little push cart you load on a tram/bus/rail. Something like that could work, though that I would leave to state medicare officials to know about. (by state I mean nation, not provincial, maybe municipal could work to help in weird situations like Quebec.)

VAF

@leet @mitgibs @stux Ambulances are made to quickly take care of people who need it. Disabeld people doesn't always use motored wheelchairs and sometimes they have to park the closest possible to a certain places. Sticking services to tram wouldn't work, it would create clocked up lines. Services also park the closest possible to a certain place because most of the time they need to take with them a lot of tools.

Goth Dino

@xVAF @mitgibs @stux there can be more of a proper balance in regards to cars and public transport. So far, that balance is overall improper, as illustrated and discussed. Other places could benefit plenty from more public transport, however funding and design goes against it. This also would create less hostile environments overall - the case now with the current layouts.
More focus on public transport would also help people like me, who cannot drive due to disability

Goth Dino

@xVAF @mitgibs @stux and when I say balance, there are too many places that should be putting public transport first, but don’t. Though people in the country who can’t drive should still have equal access. Car first transport makes it difficult for those, no matter the reason, who cannot drive

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