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Ben Houston

The flight of NASA's Artemis (purple) uses two very close encounters with the moon's gravity (green) to changes its trajectory to get back to the earth (blue.) Amazing.

More details: nasa.gov/artemis-1

#astronomy #nasa #space

83 comments
James Jefferies

@BenHouston3D looks like it is going incredibly fast when it smashes back into the earth!

Ben Houston

@jamesjefferies Interesting, you are correct, according to the speed in the bottom left, it will be doing 10km/s when it comes back to earth. Maybe it does another gravity type encounter, this time with earth, that kills its forward speed? Probably information on this somewhere online…

#OhMG 🌍🚀🌟

@BenHouston3D @jamesjefferies
Re-entry speed is 24,500 mph in old money, which equates to 10.9 km per second.

Link: nasa.gov/specials/artemis-i/

#OhMG 🌍🚀🌟

@BenHouston3D @jamesjefferies

Similar re-entry speed to Apollo and about 1.5x re-entry speed of a shuttle. I wouldn't fancy it myself. Strictly ground crew!

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@BenHouston3D @jamesjefferies Artemis will be doing Zond-style skip reentries, I think

embix

@BenHouston3D @jamesjefferies Not sure they are doing that but aerobreaking seems an option to decrease apogee. A quick dive into the thinnest upper atmosphere can save a lot of delta v. And if time is no issue, you can repeat this as much as needed to decrease speed for safe (final) reentry.

Doohickie :verified:

@jamesjefferies @BenHouston3D That's what retrorockets are for. They basically have to undo what the booster rockets did.

Christopher League

@BenHouston3D This is so amazing. I wonder if it's possible to also visualize where/when burns occur, or what proportion of the Δv along this path comes from lunar/earth gravity vs fuel expenditure… if that makes any sense.

Jocelyn Sordoni

@BenHouston3D just think of the maths involved in working this out!

Paul "theaardvark" Taylor

@BenHouston3D This looks way more complex and far more interesting than the static images the BBC has been showing.

Jason Becker

@BenHouston3D it’s pretty wild to watch this and think, “I technically know all of the math required to figure out how to do this, and yet, I never could put it together to do this.”

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@jsonbecker @BenHouston3D It's pretty wild to watch this and think: "I think I can make that happen in Kerbal Space Program"

Alex Barber

@BenHouston3D That gravity assist to slow down after chasing the moon around its orbit for a bit is blowing my mind.

Loukas Christodoulou

@BenHouston3D I love this so much. Thank you for sharing 🌈

devinpacholik

@BenHouston3D The percision of this maneuver is neat because it confirms I am too stupid to work at NASA. Thanks for sharing.

Luca 🤓

@BenHouston3D as someone with >100 certified hours on KSP, I can confirm that this is how you do it

Eric the Cerise

@lou1306 @BenHouston3D

(Sigh) ... ye Gods, I miss #KSP, hacked and modded to look and act as much like our Real Solar System, as my GPU could support.

Kyle K

This is so cool to see visualized.

Philip Steiner 🌎

@BenHouston3D

Here's the formula:
🛰️ + 🌛 + 🌎 = 🤯

Granite T. Rock

@BenHouston3D Kinda looks like a crash landing. I hope it brought a parachute! 😅

Aminel

that second time where Artemis does the loop around the moon to change its trajectory to a perpendicular direction is amazing 👏 very elegant

lord pthenq1

Nunca me va a dejar de asombrar la locura que es la navegacion con gravedad como la que hace Artemis. Es como un reloj, pero mas grande..

@BenHouston3D

Neil Krey

@BenHouston3D Thanks, Ben, for sharing this!

I have been trying to find a graphic of the mission, and am blown away by how different this is from the old Apollo flight path.

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@BenHouston3D It's a thing of beauty. I will be working on my KSP recreation of this over the next few days, for sure! #KerbalSpaceProgram

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@BenHouston3D Along these lines, are you (or is anyone) aware if NASA makes the actual telemetry data available to the public, post-mission?

Kit Bashir

@BenHouston3D @phocks Rich Parnell Sr is a steely-eyed missile man also

Simon Jackman

@BenHouston3D in awe of the orbital mechanics at work here and the computation that must lie behind it. Did any of the Apollo missions employ moves like this?

Blippy the Wonder Slug 🇩🇪🇨🇦🇺🇸

@simonjackman @BenHouston3D Kinda, but no. There were animations used in broadcasts, but in those days, there was very little animation software available for the mainframes folks used (minis were just becoming a thing, and PCs were still under the horizon), and the animations were crude by today's standards. It had improved somewhat by the mid 70s, but there was little viewer demand for the later missions, when it had become "old hat."

Stephen Brooks 🦆

@BenHouston3D I like the way it literally just falls down to Earth

Tim Y.C 🌐🌍

@BenHouston3D how does it decrease its speed enough on the way back? Does it have that much thrust?

Eric the Cerise

@BenHouston3D

Wikipedia has both this animation and a side-by-side "elevation" animation to better illustrate how wildly 3d this flight is ... no doubt it's on NASA, too, somewhere.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemi

Richard North

@BenHouston3D this makes me feel very inadequate about my Kerbal Space Program skills

MarkD

@BenHouston3D Fantastic graphic. Is it my imagination or does Artemis slow down on its first approach to the moon? That seems pretty weird. But then orbital mechanics is all weird, right 😃

Ben Houston

@markd speed is listed in bottom left corner of graphics!

Island_Martha

@BenHouston3D
Amazing! Had to watch that 3 times before I completely understood it.

Chris_w

@BenHouston3D for those that haven’t tried it the app ‘space flight simulator’ allows you to model how real space dynamics work. Taught me a lot in understand how these orbital dynamics work (yes and without the maths 😀)

Terry Madeley

@BenHouston3D I wasn't expecting such sharp corners, when the speed drops to almost nothing.

Dave

@BenHouston3D the last moon encounter needs a *BONK* noise

Sunday

@BenHouston3D They are using the Oberth effect in what is called a powered fly-by maneuver or also an Oberth maneuver. This means that with the same amount of momentum change (i.e. consumed fuel) it is possible to gain/lose much more kinetic energy, when being deep in a gravitational well (of the moon in this case).

Barbara Tate

@BenHouston3D

I couldn't get my head around the static earth and moving moon model, I needed this diagram!

robpennoyer

@BenHouston3D Awesome video. Would be cool to show an inset centered on the moon, to show the sphere of influence shift.

Ike

@BenHouston3D Thats a very creative solution. The acceleration, deceleration into an outside-track orbit and re-acceleration into re-interception is a set of maneuvers I never would have dreamed of.

It makes me wonder how it was conceived. It reminds me of AI systems that are given a task to cross a chasm, so the AI just grows longer legs.

Does NASA use AI to come up with trajectory solutions?

matthewsmith

@BenHouston3D this is so cool. Feels like space magic ... probably because the dots are, obviously, not quite to scale!

Rhett Rogers

@BenHouston3D that is so cool. Then I see the pink dot go outside the green circle and I think, what if they just go flying off into space? They definitely need to get it right haha. Good thing there are people working there that are smarter than me

Greg (K8KET) 🇺🇸

@BenHouston3D I'm in awe of the people who calculated these kinds of trajectories without the aid of computers back in the 60's and 70's.

Christian

@BenHouston3D I wonder how often this can be done before slowing the moon down ;)

Tim Stoop :kubernetes:

@BenHouston3D Just amazing that we can calculate a trajectory like this in advance

Daeh Nekat Tocs

@BenHouston3D
Really amazing.
So … space travel is run by the world’s most advanced pool players?

Doohickie :verified:

@BenHouston3D Rocket science! I studied astrophysics many years ago. There's some interesting math in there.

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