Gregory's Server@ajsadauskas this is funny to me partly because (I'm assuming you don't already know this, so sorry in advance if you do) Twitter has been working on building its own non-ActivityPub federation protocol ever since it became aware that Mastodon exists. The original plan was for Twitter.com to simply become an instance on that network. God knows what's going to happen now
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 @deriamis @estrapade @ajsadauskas except that Bluesky protocol has some clear advantages over ActivityPub on the identity front. On the other hand, on the posts side, it is mostly a reimplementation of Twitter model without any meaningful thought to generalizing.  @osma @estrapade @ajsadauskas Fair enough regarding the advantages, if indeed they *are* advantages. I’m personally not convinced that a strong identity association with posted content is always a good thing, and I just don’t see something being developed to support corporatized social media making that optional. There’s nothing in ActivityPub that prevents adding it as an option, either. The existing culture around the protocol just hasn’t made it worthwhile. @deriamis @estrapade @ajsadauskas on the early nineties a lot of people didn't see enabling "corporatized presence" being all that valuable on the Internet. Fortunately though, the web didn't prevent it, either. @deriamis @estrapade @ajsadauskas before commercial interests required it, there were no standardized and generally supported means to encrypt any transaction of information either. You may not like the concept of having commercial entities on your Internet, but you wouldn't have one without them. @osma @estrapade @ajsadauskas @osma @estrapade @ajsadauskas I don’t dislike commercial entities on the Internet. I simply don’t want to be required to give them control over my online identity. I also don’t want them to have a monopoly over what information I can access. Capitalism isn’t necessarily evil, but its goals are often in tension with what would be good for society as a whole. I don’t want a world where the only choice is what makes someone else money. @deriamis @estrapade @ajsadauskas well in that case we're in agreement. As far as implementation, I'd like to see a return to self-owned domains. I think identities are in general valuable and would prefer people to not only have more control over theirs, but responsibility over the outcomes, too. @deriamis @estrapade @ajsadauskas bluesky should consider Federating, with the REAL fediverse.. |
@estrapade @ajsadauskas I assume you’re referring to Bluesky? While it was organized by Twitter, it’s actually a non-profit initiative that Twitter has no controlling stake in. Whatever happens to Twitter, Bluesky is its own thing. I imagine research is still going forward, but still… it’s kinda reinventing the wheel at this point.