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I had seen your work (or another comic exactly on the same subject) a few months ago on Twitter, but had no account so I couldn't share/answer then.

So I do it now : thanks a lot. It made me realize that allistic people twisted my view of myself to the point of absurdity.

@newtsoda So extremely infuriating. "Personal failing: avoids hypocrisy."

@newtsoda In other cultures this would be called siddhahood.

@newtsoda I'm sorry if this is perhaps slightly off topic but those image descriptions are beautiful. I just wanted to thank you for putting in the time for writing them so detailed. Thank you so much!

@newtsoda awe your art is so clean and nice and calming! do you have some more story-based calm-narrative ones?

(p.s. it also reminds me of how https://www.webtoons.com/en/drama/fluidum/list?title_no=2283 looks)

@newtsoda fabulous work, thank you for that! And thank you for image descriptions ✊🏽

Great to have you here! 🙂

@newtsoda This sort of reminds me of how, for a long long time we where discussed as though we didn't have empathy, where as if anything we, the issue we have an overabundance of empathy & are frequently overwhelmed by it.

@newtsoda this is really good, thank you

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Honestly, I just like your last page there.

@newtsoda thank you ❤️

@newtsoda Love the idea of doing official NT research (I think I have done that for most of my life)! And yes, autistic folks need to speak for themselves.

@newtsoda i am autistic and i think that a high percentage of autistic people care about social justice, but let us remember Elon is supposedly autistic tio and hos a self serving a-hole.

@newtsoda wow, this really puts things clearly. Also I love the descriptions on the last page! "Inflexible adherence to unwritten social rules" indeed!

@newtsoda "INEXPLICABLE COMPULSION TO PROJECT NEGATIVE SUBTEXT INTO SIMPLE CONVERSATIONS" oh jeez this ruins me

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Great work! :-)
So the story basically is: people are assholes (at least if there is a benefit in it) and therefore not being an asshole makes you not “normal”.

Besides of the evil framing they decided to give this about autistic people: think about what this tells about how we perceive, build and expect societies to be.

@newtsoda@wandering.shop This isn't just biased, it's terrible science. The hallmark of autism is a lower engagement with social norms. Of course autistic people were less likely than allistics to have different views in public than private. (As for higher general morality, that wouldn't shock me either. And I say this as someone who's allistic.)

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Flawed study, but as an anecdote, it does resemble my real world observation that we behave with a more consistent conviction than NTs (which I contest that they are 'typical', rather they're favoured for being easier to exploit under capitalism)

I remember reading a study showing we've a lower representation among hate groups, attributed to having trouble handling the cognitive dissonance that keeps someone entrenched in bigotry
But he'll if I can find the bloody thing again

@newtsoda This is one of the best image descriptions I've ever seen. Oh my goodness, thank you so much!

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twisting good things to be bad isn't just a clear example of bias, but also of cognitive dissonance, they went in believing autistic people were going to be "worse" so when their study failed to reach that conclusion, they had to come up with some other reason why it actually super totally did prove what they wanted.

@newtsoda admittedly, "autistic people have morals and this is bad because" paints a pretty complete picture of the researcher

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I am perfectly OK with being "too concerned about my moral compass" because at least I don't have to have a bad memory to have a good conscience

@newtsoda I love that last panel. “Inexplicable compulsion to project negative subtext into simple conversations” indeed!

@newtsoda "WHAT!" indeed. :blobfoxangry:

@newtsoda I teach a behavioural public policy class for cognitive science students, and I prepare a session about neurodiversity.
I'd like to (i) ask permission to provide my students with these panels (strictly in an academic setting, and as a cautionary tale) and (ii) know the reference of the research paper. Would that be possible?

@newtsoda I'd love a link to the study, thanks! :)

@newtsoda Thank you for this.

@newtsoda We get to use it as research on researchers. Luckily, you don't need an ethics committee approval to research the researchers while they're duped into thinking that it is them who are the researching.

@newtsoda Very interesting! Could you provide a reference to that study, btw?

@newtsoda that study is absolutely wild.

"For example, Moran et al. (2011) reported that ASD participants considered accidental negative outcomes less permissible than healthy control subjects, whereas both groups rated other types of events as having similar moral appropriateness"

I'm sorry, I don't think the control was healthy 😆

WTF

@newtsoda @sheromon I used to work in an autism research lab, and the way they explained the difference between my (non-autistic) interest in video games and an autistic "circumscribed interest" in video games was that the latter was "excessive". It took me a couple of years to think "excessive for whom?"