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πŸ’‰πŸ’‰πŸ’‰πŸ¦ JF :debian: :verbike:

Twitter was free because we were the product of a marketing service.

Mastodon is free software but someone will have to pay the bill for the servers. When the server admins come asking for help, don't be offended and be ready to chip in

22 comments
seeteegee

@jfparis I’m hoping that the community can come up with new funding/business models. Perhaps, even some government funded instances.

seeteegee

@jfparis maybe in some cases people pay by doing content moderation, sysadmin work, or advertising for the company that runs the instance.

πŸ’‰πŸ’‰πŸ’‰πŸ¦ JF :debian: :verbike:

@seeteegee that might certainly be the case for a minority of people (and they probably know who they are). Anyway I would be delighted to be proven wrong (in time, no need to argue this today)

Diane Bruce

@jfparis Exactly On twitter we were not the customer we were the product. Here we have to pay our own way. I don't mind one little bit despite what Lippmann said ;)

Guy Jordan

@jfparis For that reason, I don’t mind if mastodon transitions into a for-profit entity (at last one that is either publically traded or owned by someone who isn’t, well…you know). I just want a news/discussion/public square that isn’t the personal plaything of, well…you know.

RDS (shawphd on Twitter)

@jfparis I signed up for the Patreon. Definitely worth supporting.

πŸ’‰πŸ’‰πŸ’‰πŸ¦ JF :debian: :verbike:

@shawrd773 each will be different but patreon seems to be the model for yours

Karen Carr

@jfparis

or ask them where to give right now! Guests offer to help, they don't wait to be asked.

Christina Hendriks

@jfparis I am not! It’s a much more worthwhile thing here.

doodlemania

@jfparis It might even be worth the $8! (but definitely not per month lol)

πŸ’‰πŸ’‰πŸ’‰πŸ¦ JF :debian: :verbike:

@derek cost of running a server could be higher than that but I guess there is a lot of savings via sharing a server

BrianBaxter

@jfparis so there is no advertising? Could a server run advertising if they wanted? New here.

πŸ’‰πŸ’‰πŸ’‰πŸ¦ JF :debian: :verbike:

@BrianBaxter it's open source so I don't see why not. Wonder what would happen though in practice

william.maggos

@jfparis

a norm of $1/month from everyone would be good.

Matthew in Aotearoa

@jfparis where / what system is the server hosted on?

πŸ’‰πŸ’‰πŸ’‰πŸ¦ JF :debian: :verbike:

@Matthew I am not sure what the question is. You should try to check for your server. Read the about page and see what they have there

Sallyterra

@jfparis
Agreed. I wonder if there is a way to serve up ads that are truly based on one’s interests or server choice. If opted in, the only ads you see are from interests or even companies you choose. If not opted in, you get other broad categories of ads. Advertisers would love that.

πŸ’‰πŸ’‰πŸ’‰πŸ¦ JF :debian: :verbike:

@Sallyterra I have seen that somewhere before. The name eludes me for some reason

Sallyterra

@jfparis

I would buy space on FB and we could really drill down on the targeted demos, but still the advertiser would choose the audience. In my suggestion the audience would choose the advertisers. Streaming tv is trying a version of this where you choose the version of the ad to reduce non-targeted ads. I don’t know what it is called though.

Carmen Mitchell

@jfparis Not an expert on funding models, but I do know that AO3 (a far more niche service!) is very successful during their fundraising drives, and I imagine Mastodon could be too.

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