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maya🌲

someone braver than I am should write about the upsides of "friendship ended with native now browser is my new OS". (I have found almost every electron app more domesticable within the browser)

31 Oct 2022 at 18:41 | Open on occult.institute
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Kartik Agaram
Ramsey Nasser

@akkartik @maya yeah i am the same... for all its faults it keeps being the environment i want to use and develop in...

31 Oct 2022 at 23:49 | Open on merveilles.town
emenel

@nasser @akkartik @maya I also agree, but with the caveat that I actually don’t love using browser based software that isn’t network related, but I do love it as a dev environment, even just for prototyping. For me it’s the fastest way to think through an idea with a canvas. Many other languages/environments make it really hard to visualize things dynamically, or whip up a quick UI.

I will say that I don’t really enjoy JavaScript as a language. But that’s easy enough to work around these days.

1 Nov 2022 at 0:19 | Open on post.lurk.org
Kartik Agaram

@emenel @nasser @maya My heart wants to propose the Lua LÖVE framework (love2d.org) in combination with something like LoveFrames (github.com/eledot/LoveFrames/w)

But.. I haven't actually tried it yet :/

It's a little work. You have to download LÖVE (a nice cross-platform 5MB binary), then create a little app with LoveFrames set up inside it. Whereas the browser is obviously right there and ready to go.

But it's a lot smaller, more stable, more secure.

I really should try it out.

@emenel @nasser @maya My heart wants to propose the Lua LÖVE framework (love2d.org) in combination with something like LoveFrames (github.com/eledot/LoveFrames/w)

But.. I haven't actually tried it yet :/

It's a little work. You have to download LÖVE (a nice cross-platform 5MB binary), then create a little app with LoveFrames set up inside it. Whereas the browser is obviously right there and ready to go.

1 Nov 2022 at 1:39 | Open on merveilles.town
Konrad Hinsen

@emenel @nasser @akkartik @maya You might consider a Smalltalk system. Squeak, Pharo, Glamorous Toolkit (the latter being Pharo with a new UI). Main drawback: no decent mobile support.

1 Nov 2022 at 6:04 | Open on scholar.social
maya🌲

@akkartik I've written a bit adjacent to the first link, I think? maya.land/monologues/2022/09/1 There's a lot people can do with the browser that would never exist as native applications – because of skill distribution or preexisting toolkits or $$ etc.

But what I meant *here* was more... things that *are* done outside the browser, that are *normally* done that way, that are wedged inside the browser anyway despite making a certain old guard cringe. It costs something, but it buys something too.

@akkartik I've written a bit adjacent to the first link, I think? maya.land/monologues/2022/09/1 There's a lot people can do with the browser that would never exist as native applications – because of skill distribution or preexisting toolkits or $$ etc.

But what I meant *here* was more... things that *are* done outside the browser, that are *normally* done that way, that are wedged inside the browser anyway despite making a certain old guard cringe. It costs something, but...

1 Nov 2022 at 0:31 | Open on occult.institute
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