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Johnny Retard ඞ
The messaging app situation is fucking terrible
- Lots of people use discord
- Discord sucks, both the client and how it works
- Matrix exists, but it copies discord
- Surprise, matrix is shit
- Surprise. the official matrix client is fucking sluggish at times and buggy
- Some people use telegram
- So far, is the best feature-wise + the official client is fast and doesn't rape your system's resources
- Freetards hate it due to the server code not being OSS
- Despite this, no freetard has ever made a telegram copy/alternative that's also foss.

SO WE ARE STUCK WITH SHITTY SHIT
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Sarvo

@MischievousTomato@bae.st movim is the closest thing I can think of a telegram like xmpp client, and it isn't terrible except is webshit and their devs aren't the greatest

Weeble

@sarvo@novoa.nagoya @MischievousTomato@bae.st Telegram is nice but more as like a whatsapp group for friends and family and it's pretty lame it requires a phone number.

I'm still hoping for revolt to be ready.

Sarvo

@Weeble@bungle.online @MischievousTomato@bae.st why you niggas want to keep using discord that much IT FUCKING SUCKS DICK

Weeble

@sarvo@novoa.nagoya @MischievousTomato@bae.st Cuz unlike ur pasty ass I actually socialize with ppl and vc and screenshare and send funny emotes in diff channels.

Not my fault the closest thing to that is revolt and matrix.

Vftdan

@MischievousTomato What's the problem with Matrix except it's client and server implementation?

yujiri
@vftdan @MischievousTomato the protocol is ludicrously complex, and has undesirable features like leaking a lot of metadata and having to verify users and individual sessions.

the point of your question seems to be that client and server implementation flaws are not fatal because they can be fixed, but that's the thing about complexity: because of how complex the protocol is, there will never be a robust client or server implementation.
@vftdan @MischievousTomato the protocol is ludicrously complex, and has undesirable features like leaking a lot of metadata and having to verify users and individual sessions.

the point of your question seems to be that client and server implementation flaws are not fatal because they can be fixed, but that's the thing about complexity: because of how complex the protocol is, there will never be a...
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