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tommy

@yogthos 🤮 because the ussr wasn't bloody as fuck?!

5 Aug 2022 at 15:35 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.oi7.de
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Yogthos

@tommy sure was better than the capitalist alternatives

5 Aug 2022 at 17:41 | Open on mas.to
tommy

@yogthos pretty much one dimensional thinking.

5 Aug 2022 at 17:50 | Open on mastodon.oi7.de
Yogthos

@tommy it's not, USSR managed to provide food, housing, education, jobs, and healthcare for its entire population. Nobody worried about losing their job and ending on the street or not being able to retire in dignity.

These are things western countries still aren't able to provide for their people. And of course, if we look at the state of things in post USSR republics it's pretty clear things got worse across the board.

5 Aug 2022 at 18:09 | Open on mas.to
tommy

@yogthos what about dissidents? the starvation crisis to transform the country to an industrialized country? nothing against communism but against dictatorship and authoritarianism

5 Aug 2022 at 18:15 | Open on mastodon.oi7.de
Yogthos

@tommy I'm comparing it to the alternatives available in the real world as opposed to some Utopian fantasy anarchists keep pining for without showing any way to get there.

Nobody is claiming USSR was perfect in any way, but it did improve lives for millions of people while it existed.

It also continued to become more egalitarian throughout its existence. USSR of the late 80s was nothing like USSR in the 50s.

Meanwhile, here' what capitalism gets you

horizons-newspaper.com/index.p

@tommy I'm comparing it to the alternatives available in the real world as opposed to some Utopian fantasy anarchists keep pining for without showing any way to get there.

Nobody is claiming USSR was perfect in any way, but it did improve lives for millions of people while it existed.

It also continued to become more egalitarian throughout its existence. USSR of the late 80s was nothing like USSR in the 50s.

5 Aug 2022 at 18:20 | Open on mas.to
Yogthos

@tommy a bit ironic that you're the one accusing me of one dimensional thinking here while being unable to comprehend that USSR was a net positive for humanity despite being flawed

5 Aug 2022 at 18:21 | Open on mas.to
tommy

@yogthos "net positive" is quite one dimensional. You can only decide on a one dimensional scale if something was positive or not.

5 Aug 2022 at 18:27 | Open on mastodon.oi7.de
Yogthos

@tommy it's literally the opposite of what one dimensional means. It means that there was both good and bad in USSR, and the good outweighed the bad.

I guess can't expect reading comprehension from an anarchist.

5 Aug 2022 at 18:28 | Open on mas.to
tommy

@yogthos to compute net positivity you have to weight different aspects to add them as numbers. You decide the weight. It is your measure to reduce multi demensional complexity to one criteria "net positivity".

And nice move to start insulting. ;)

5 Aug 2022 at 18:34 | Open on mastodon.oi7.de
tommy

@yogthos did I wrote anything in favor of capitalism or why are you coming up with it again an again?

5 Aug 2022 at 18:25 | Open on mastodon.oi7.de
Yogthos

@tommy by rejecting workable alternatives you implicitly support the status quo

5 Aug 2022 at 18:26 | Open on mas.to
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