@yogthos what about dissidents? the starvation crisis to transform the country to an industrialized country? nothing against communism but against dictatorship and authoritarianism
@tommy I'm comparing it to the alternatives available in the real world as opposed to some Utopian fantasy anarchists keep pining for without showing any way to get there.
Nobody is claiming USSR was perfect in any way, but it did improve lives for millions of people while it existed.
It also continued to become more egalitarian throughout its existence. USSR of the late 80s was nothing like USSR in the 50s.
@tommy I'm comparing it to the alternatives available in the real world as opposed to some Utopian fantasy anarchists keep pining for without showing any way to get there.
Nobody is claiming USSR was perfect in any way, but it did improve lives for millions of people while it existed.
It also continued to become more egalitarian throughout its existence. USSR of the late 80s was nothing like USSR in the 50s.
@tommy a bit ironic that you're the one accusing me of one dimensional thinking here while being unable to comprehend that USSR was a net positive for humanity despite being flawed
@yogthos to compute net positivity you have to weight different aspects to add them as numbers. You decide the weight. It is your measure to reduce multi demensional complexity to one criteria "net positivity".
@tommy I'm comparing it to the alternatives available in the real world as opposed to some Utopian fantasy anarchists keep pining for without showing any way to get there.
Nobody is claiming USSR was perfect in any way, but it did improve lives for millions of people while it existed.
It also continued to become more egalitarian throughout its existence. USSR of the late 80s was nothing like USSR in the 50s.
Meanwhile, here' what capitalism gets you
http://horizons-newspaper.com/index.php/2020/02/27/tallying-capitalisms-death-toll/
@tommy I'm comparing it to the alternatives available in the real world as opposed to some Utopian fantasy anarchists keep pining for without showing any way to get there.
Nobody is claiming USSR was perfect in any way, but it did improve lives for millions of people while it existed.
It also continued to become more egalitarian throughout its existence. USSR of the late 80s was nothing like USSR in the 50s.