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@Natasha_Jay @Dingsextrem Or then, Aalto University. Crowdsourced (also by me) and then formalized paths in the foreground, the ones crossing the lawn with no trees along them. @ELS @Natasha_Jay @Dingsextrem interesting to see that the desired path is not always the shortest. Sometimes it's under the shade of trees, for example. @ELS this looks beautiful, reminds me of something organic in a petri dish Pretty sure we had a few of those at my college in the North East of the US, where they just paved the well worn foot paths Always seemed eminently reasonable solution to me, optimizing for where people actually went. @Natasha_Jay @Dingsextrem Illinois Tech built their whole campus center around desire paths. Makes it hard to give directions inside the building though 🤣 https://www.metalocus.es/en/news/iit-mccormick-tribune-campus-center-oma @Dingsextrem @Natasha_Jay There is also a path at the @TU that got formalized. Still unpaved though, as is the path it is leading to. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/30123154#map=17/49.877104/8.654523 Edit: I'm seeing now the tagging needs to be updated. @Natasha_Jay not really in the spirit of the whole thing, but unpaved packed earth paths can be used by some bees and insects to nest in, so yay desire paths. @Natasha_Jay When I first heard of this concept, they were called 'meander-ways' and I prefer it. 😊 Great comic. Love the Alt-text, too. @ninafelwitch @Natasha_Jay yeah, I expected a brick wall, a trench, barbing wire, and eventually gun turrets and surveillance cameras. @Natasha_Jay I studied landscape architecture and was taught that if a desire path is necessary, the architectural design was bad to begin with. @JohannaMakesGames @Natasha_Jay That assumes that the architects had perfect knowledge of where everyone was coming from and going to before they started their design. Even if such a thing were possible, it doesn't account for future changes in where people are coming from and going to. A better model is to admit that your knowledge is imperfect and plan to iteratively accommodate new desire paths as they appear. @gpilz @JohannaMakesGames @Natasha_Jay Or you could do like Umeå and just ignore them even after they become two-lane desirepaths. They even remade the park and grass. The desirepath ofcourse reformed immediately. Love the comic, always thought this was how it worked :) @JohannaMakesGames @Natasha_Jay That sounds like you’re expected to be superhuman? I prefer the approach of waiting for them to develop and then formalizing them. @Foodecology @JohannaMakesGames @Natasha_Jay The best of both … but a clear and open mind to start the design with is needed. @Foodecology @Natasha_Jay We were expected to go and analyze the place in person and with a map of the surroundings. I have never worked as a landscape architect though, so I can't share more information on how well that turns out. @Natasha_Jay @Natasha_Jay and all I can think of is the poor #OpenStreetMap'er who has to make the updates on the map :-P @bit101 @Natasha_Jay yeah, should have put the path to the crossing, not "finally admit defeat" but still not quite do what's desired. It's a typical council bumhead power-trip move to still try to force people to deviate just a little. But hey, in the real world, some councils would replace the hedge with a spike-topped fence and a metre of ankle-breaker paving behind it. @Natasha_Jay I love seeing these IRL. @Natasha_Jay The war on desire paths never ends, every accommodation of the path creates a new desire path, call it the rebellious nature of the human spirit. An article about desire paths: https://99percentinvisible.org/article/least-resistance-desire-paths-can-lead-better-design/ A podcast episode about desire paths (and other things): https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/you-should-do-a-story/ @Natasha_Jay Desire paths are data, already visualised. All the planners need is to just act on it. In Germany it is called: Gestaltung durch Nutzung in english speaking countries: @Anstattradler @Natasha_Jay "paving the cowpaths" is what I always heard in the midwest. @Anstattradler @Natasha_Jay @Natasha_Jay @helmplus @Natasha_Jay @Natasha_Jay 😀 We had (literally) exactly that situation in Passau The city gov didn´t want the people to cross the local market place diagonally between the university and the bus terminal, so they planted roses. After the thorny roses were "walked over" at a specific point they built a wire fence there. That too was "walked away". Finally the city gov gave up and paved a way through... Power to the people! @Natasha_Jay Nørreport station square in Copenhagen did something similar https://www.cobe.dk/projects/norreport-station @Natasha_Jay If I remember correctly, Kassel Uni (or was it Hohenheim?) did the same with a new block: wait for the desire lines to appear before completing the external groundwork and paving. It takes guts and is not easy to pull off in terms of the bill of quantities and tendering. @Natasha_Jay maybe you want to respect the artist: https://www.instagram.com/p/DE24GKTNRAs/?igsh=MTU2OTI1NDBuYWpyMw== @Natasha_Jay he also has prints available: https://instachaaz.shop/products/desire-paths-poster Fill the entire lot with trashcans except for the intended path. @Natasha_Jay @Natasha_Jay I'll have you know this comic inspired a small bit of worldbuilding for my sona's kingdom/queendom~ @sakhavi @Natasha_Jay I love desire lines as an optimisation solution. It's not far off Ant Colony Optimisation, just fewer pheromones. @Natasha_Jay Walked across a tiny desire path today, it can only be about two strides long. Just because. @Natasha_Jay @Natasha_Jay that 12th image made me laugh. "Okay, okay, you can have this path! Happy now?" "Weeellllllll....." @Natasha_Jay This was a desire path in the late 70's, eventually they caved in and paved it. There was all sorts of uproar at the time about people staying off the grass. Students rushing to class in the morning or heading home at night are NOT going to take the long scenic route. @Natasha_Jay For some reason I can not view this as a parable of the people's resistance against authoritarians. @Natasha_Jay thanks for sharing this! That's visual #poetry to me 🥲, I never thought such plain and everyday elements could be so moving. @Natasha_Jay |
@Natasha_Jay at the Uni campus of Heidelberg University they actually paved the desired paths which were brown soil through the green. Let the feet decide, not planners.