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Christoph G.

@Sirablopp @monnier @RonSupportsYou @gleick
I am a cis white guy 😁
When I participated to WP one could start a page as a stub and people started adding to and refining the content. Now the page gets nuked because some dud feels his arbitrary quality or relevance criteria are not met. As long as there are no sufficient checks and balances for the admins (an no, your buddy agreeing with you is not sufficient), I for once will not waste my time trying to be good enough 🤷‍♀️

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RonSupportsYou

@cg @Sirablopp @monnier @gleick An organization such as Wikipedia has to have some standards, otherwise people will have pages for their spouses, even if a spouse did nothing other than get married to arguably deserve a page.

Christoph G.

@RonSupportsYou @Sirablopp @monnier @gleick
I know of indy bands who got asked to set up a WP page. So they did, added discography and all only to be wiped because they were not relevant. Without any chance for appeal.
Pages I started were deleted because they were "not good enough". No "please extend this", just gone. So I gave WP a heartfelt 🤬🖕 and stopped contributing.

RonSupportsYou

@cg @Sirablopp @monnier @gleick I do not know the decision makers at Wikipedia. I did not know of your experience until you mentioned it to me. My experience with them is positive. They perform a useful function. There is always room for improvement.

Sirana

@RonSupportsYou @cg @monnier @gleick I assure you the topics and lists involved in the discussions I know about were not "pages for their spouses" and I'm sure neither were the ones Christoph mentioned. Here is one famous example: sciencealert.com/in-may-wikipe

But sure, just make up a fake argument nobody even brought up to feel good arguing against it, if that makes you happy. :)

RonSupportsYou

@Sirablopp @cg @monnier @gleick There is now a Wikipedia page for Donna Theo Strickland: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donna_St proving that Wikipedia is not perfect but it is getting better.

Christoph G.

@Sirablopp @RonSupportsYou @monnier @gleick
Let's stay chill 🤗. Ron is right in as much that there have to be standards. But these should be clear and unambiguous.

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