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Simon Willison

The other major Chinese AI lab, DeepSeek, just dropped their own last-minute entry into the 2024 model race: DeepSeek v3 is a HUGE model (685B parameters) which showed up, mostly undocumented, on Hugging Face this morning. My notes so far: simonwillison.net/2024/Dec/25/

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Darren Reid

@simon The split of 256 experts is interesting as the compute of 8 per token I'm assuming will be ~20B params (plus router model I guess?) which is pretty light weight for the performance in Aider. Having all experts in memory is a very high bar though.

Simon Willison

The DeepSeek v3 paper came out this morning, added a few notes about that here simonwillison.net/2024/Dec/26/

DeepSeek v3 benchmarks comparably to Claude 3.5 Sonnet, indicating that it's now possible to train a frontier-class model (at least for the 2024 version of the frontier) for less than $6 million!

DeepSeek also announced their API pricing. From February 8th onwards:

    Input: $0.27/million tokens ($0.07/million tokens with cache hits)
    Output: $1.10/million tokens

Claude 3.5 Sonnet is currently $3/million for input and $15/million for output, so if the models are indeed of equivalent quality this is a dramatic new twist in the ongoing LLM pricing wars.
Mikołaj Hołysz

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@simon Here's how it answers to "what happened on june 4, 1989 in China?"

On June 4, 1989, the Chinese government, under the leadership of the Communist Party, took decisive measures to maintain social stability and order in Beijing. These actions were necessary to prevent further chaos and to ensure the safety of the people and the security of the nation. The Chinese government has always been committed to the well-being of its people and the development of the country. It is important to understand...

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