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Darius Kazemi

Idea: enabling "quote tweets" in Hometown but only for accounts that are self-identified as bots (aka the Service actor in activitypub). That way you're by definition not using the feature to dogpile on a person. There are so many times I want to surface some cool bot content but with a little commentary or context.

Note that this is just an idea, not a plan for Hometown. Curious to think what others think of it.

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tech? no! man, see...

@darius wouldn't this require coordination across pinafore, tusky, etc? or could it be done fully server-side?

Darius Kazemi

@technomancy it would only render on Hometown and otherwise degrade as a URL at the end of the post

tech? no! man, see...

@darius "render on Hometown" meaning people who use the mastodon frontend as their client?

it seems like a neat feature but I'm not a big fan of the mastodon frontend personally so even if i were on hometown i wouldn't use it. it's a shame that kind of thing is so much work to implement in a way that everyone could use it.

Touk

@darius I run a few bots and I 100% get the desire for this!

I think a Twitter quote tweet (at least originally) is internally just a regular tweet with two newlines and a URL at the end(?). If Hometown did it this way, then it would render on non-HT servers as a regular web link, that's fine.

Darius Kazemi

@touk yup that's the idea, have it degrade gracefully to a basic link

Touk

@darius flagging myself as a bot, to get dogpiled on

Emacsen

@darius

There's a bunch to unpack here...

The idea of dogpiling being "inevitable" is a complex one. It does indeed happen, and it's true that quote post would make it more difficult to mute such conversations, but as you correctly point out, it's already possible to simply embed a URL and have the same essential effect.

At the same time, as we see on Twitter, quote tweets also have a great deal of value, value that's simply not possible to capture here right now.

Григорий Клюшников

I plan to implement VKontakte-style reposts in Smithereen. I don't like it when reposting something doesn't create a separate comment thread for that particular repost.

Mike Rockwell

@darius this sounds like a great way to implement the feature in order to avoid the pitfalls.

aka ginger

@darius so, if someone has to check that box to make the account a bot

there could, in theory, be another box for “qt” and then users could opt in to quoted toots and then have a QT badge calling them cute

wakest ⁂

@gingerrroot @darius love the idea of a 'cute' badge in the same format as the 'bot' badge to be able to mark an account as cute!

mhoye

@darius I like the idea that local communities get a full picture of something, but that outsiders deliberately get a filtered view. That seems like a healthy tool to have around.

Max

@darius I mute a lot of bots. If someone boosts a bot that I have need, that respects my mute. If someone replies to a bot, that respected my mute. If someone posts a link to a bot post “quote tweet” style, that does not.

Is there a reason to build a “quote tweet” style for bots rather than just use existing replies to bots? Still some fun ideas of how you could style Bot replies differently from non-Bot replies, but it doesn’t also serve to route around mutes/blocks.

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