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fontenot

@cwebber But I think you're right that this starts to come apart at the seams. In fact, as you pointed out, the relay isn't neutral. It deletes spam and removes illegal content.

That's important not just because of the operating costs, but because it means that the headcanon one-true-AT-network doesn't really exist; what exists is something much more centralized and hard to duplicate.

I don't have a good response to this. I think if you want relay independence, Bsky isn't likely to cut it.

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fontenot replied to fontenot

@cwebber

One thing I didn't think to say in the above is that you can imagine a distributed ledger for did:plc and the relay - which doesn't currently exist. If one did exist, then there would be a practical way to keep Bluesky honest.

Bsky proponents seem to think that Bluesky is meant to behave *as if* did:plc and the relay were like this, and if they start misbehaving you can fork the network.

But the fact that Bsky doesn't, and *can't*, be neutral throws a wrench into this.

fontenot replied to fontenot

@cwebber

I would summarize my view by saying that Bsky is semi-decentralized but NOT federated. It's a model of publishing akin to RSS, with the AppView serving as Google Reader / Feedly equivalent.

And like Feedly / Inoreader, Bsky adds a bunch of *centralized* features on top of "RSS", which complicates the term "decentralized".

The problem for Bsky is that RSS is not a social network, and the most "social" of Bsky's features (e.g. global search, DMs) are therefore the most centralized.

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