@neauoire "And what's a kid going to do with Visual Basic? Build a modal dialog? Forget coding for XBox. Requires registration in the XBox"

Ok so funny thing about this sentence, with an xbox one and $15 to sign up for the indie developer program, I'm pretty sure one *can* write visual basic programs for xbox. I don't know if anyone ever did, but UWP was weird like this.

I don't think that's in conflict with the author's point at all, though.

@neauoire While not part of the system, I think that Processing and later p5 have been quite successful in providing accessible programming. Still far from the ideas of _why, but a lot closer than regular programming languages.

@neauoire the article is from 2003, but today we have excellent and accessible programming languages for children: Scratch for example https://scratch.mit.edu/ or installing python is not complicated. Or I started out scripting computercraft in Lua.