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CynAq🤘

@mina strippers, at least, are human thus they might _potentially_ like you

Isaac Flores
@mina siempre el idolatrar y sobre todo el idealizar a alguien nos hace perder cualquier objetividad que pudiéramos tener y Dependiendo el grado incluso nos puede alejar cada vez más de la realidad
the real Möria 🥕 :verified:

@mina What?! I always thought they were doing it only for me!

Mina

@moeria

You are a special case.

The exception to the rule.

jer

@mina @moeria
I tnink that's not an exception. Idolising involves feeling special in someone's presence or attention and hoping for the inverse happening?

molly in missouri

@mina actually, that explains it all.
They are confident the stripper wants them and that the politician values their existence.

Uriel Fanelli

@mina So you mean Michelle does not really likes me?

buaaaaaahhhhhh!!!

Matt Hall

@mina

Whoa-whoa-whoa-whoa...

She doesn't like me?

awkapuma

@mina

Neoliberalism wants people to hate and dont believe in politics.
Because politics is the way to change things, in Democracy.

Politicians are just as good or bad like the society in wich they live, they are not aliens from outerspace.

Right-wing wins when someone hates the politic. Politics is about power relationships, if you quit they win (the rich, the bad politicians, right wing).

GhostOnTheHalfShell

@awkapuma @mina

Neoliberalism has always been an ask that a people surrender their sovereignty to totalitarian rule by wealth.

Plutocracy 2.0 we know the previous incarnation as feudalism

Kzad_Bhat

@awkapuma @mina

nahh the strippers and sex workers are honest about that part, that they are only in it for the money...

politicians on the other hand.. lie about facts.

Luk

@awkapuma @mina
For me, politics is just like cleaning our toilets and take our trash out. It's dirty, it stinks but we have to do it. It is a sanitary necessity. If we don't, life becomes a mess.

When someone loves it, is passionate about it, he or she probably has some sanity issues.

Politicians are the last people we should idolizing because they are among the worst of us. For that reason we should not left them alone.

Mina

@Luk

I am passionate about politics. In the end, politics is the business of taking care of our all common good and its future.

I just don't trust leaders very far.

@awkapuma

Juho Mäntysalo

@Luk @awkapuma @mina

...how does being interested in common events make someone "the worst of us"? Would think the alternative would be true.

Ariaflame

@awkapuma @mina There's a difference between not getting involved in politics and not idolising politicians. Recognising they are flawed human beings and picking the ones who have the best chance of improving things is the best that can be done.

awkapuma

@ariaflame @mina

Some speeches and memes promote hating politics and politicians.

For example: "all politicians are the same".

Billionares, rich people, right wing and people with power want everyone to hate politics, and hate all politicians, even some politicians have anti-politics speech.

Each of us will have to know and discover wich speeches and memes promote hating politics and politicians.

Mina

@awkapuma

I am with Aria on this:

Being a very political person myself, I have seen it far too often that people fall into the trap of putting all their hope into charismatic leaders.

This is not healthy, as it will inevitably lead into brutal disenchantment or, in order to avoid it, fanatism.

@ariaflame

awkapuma

@mina @ariaflame

It's ok, we can disagree and its good, there is no only one way of thinking. My respects.

I just think that the word "politicians" can be taken out from debate. We can place just "people": We dont need to idealize "a person". In that way, i think we do not contribute to further devalue and erode Politics as a fundamental tool for social change.

Because real power, right wing and neoliberalism dont want us to believe in any politician or the Politics.

Ale

@mina @awkapuma @ariaflame I agree, you can see Morena (México) as an example, a lot of people idolize that party, even with its flaws like corruption, narco-colluded, sect-colluded (like Clara Luz and NXIVM), violent responses to protestors in touristic places and protected areas, etc.

It's not healthy, as Mina mentions. First doubt, then fact check, then like/love if you want, but a politician isn't usually at the same level as the people they "work for".

Randall Lee

@mina At least ya get something out of the interaction with the stripper while they are trying to fleece you. The same can't be said for the politician

jer

@mina
Idolising a politician is like believing the politician really likes you
#ftfy

JacobRPG+ 🫘

@mina I saw a video recently where the takeaway is that in the continued fight for justice, choosing a politician is to choose your opponent in that fight.

youtu.be/q2CHfqJ3I5w

:thufie: red bean slime :contains_thc:

@mina strippers have rules about what they are allowed to do for money, though :P

David Nice

@mina Well, 'idolize' is a bit strong, but I have to believe fervently in the good of Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, for instance. Not all politicians are the same...

Mina

@davidpnice

Yes. She seems pretty fabulous, but she hasn't reached to the top (yet).

David Nice

@mina If the Democrats are to make a difference, they need to turn to her and Bernie far more than they've been doing. No more timidity.

Mina

@davidpnice

The point is: I doubt that the majority of the party agrees to her politics.

Members of Congress are nearly all fabulously rich. I once saw a statistic that an abundant majority of congresspeople and senators are above 10 million and many above 100 in personal wealth.

This applies to both of your parties.

They will always protect the companies they're shareholders of.

David Nice

@mina I know. And I'm no revolutionary, but probably the only thing I have in common with Bannon is a certainty that the whole rotten edifice has to crumble. We just have rather different ideas about the rebuilding...

Blue Dahlia

@mina The Delusional: so you're saying there's a chance?

Mark Kahl 🚲🐻🦁🇺🇦🇮🇱

@mina Seriously, Charity can't pretend that much! The best proof is that she confessed to me alone that her real name is Charity and not Crystal!

Mina

@failedLyndonLaRouchite

There's a whole ocean and quite some land, in the middle.

Otherwise, I'd love to go against these christofascist fuckers.

Raul Portales

@mina nah, there's an actual chance that the stripper likes you

Hannu Ikonen

@mina Honestly, truthfully have more sympathy for the guy believing that about a stripper.

Marcel Geveler

@mina und das lächeln einer stripperin würd ich jederzeit dem/die politiker*in vorziehn 🙈

enoch_exe_inc

@mina And it’s shocking how many US Presidents have enormous cults of personality and how hard people go for them. Seriously. I think Congress should pass a law banning personality cults.

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