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Tattie

@Impossible_PhD I train with bladed weapons (well, blunt ones) every week, and the thought of using them in self-defense is fucking stupid. Like what's the plan here? You get jumped and then expect to have a minute to pull a knife out of your bag? Or walk around with one in your hand whenever you feel unsafe, thus pre-escalating any confrontation? A knife is an offensive weapon, not a defensive one. They only get more people hurt.

No, your first plan should always be to de-escalate and defuse the situation. Keep your hands low, make it clear you're not interested in a fight. Don't brandish anything at anyone.

Your second plan, if you can, is to run. Keep an eye on your escape routes, don't let people back you into a corner.

Only after both those options are exhausted should you turn to fighting. And the only "weapon" I'd recommend is a good stout umbrella. It's not perceived as a weapon, meaning you can still de-escalate with one in your hand. You can give someone a swift knock in the jaw or round the head to daze them, or you knock the knife out of their hand, and then you run.

Self-defense is about getting away safely, not escalating a confrontation into a fight.

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The Corodon

@Tattie @Impossible_PhD
Big agree. I used to work in a knife shop and appealed to my martial arts training to redirect people looking for self-defense to our pepper spray. If we'd sold solid umbrellas I would've recommended that, too.
As I put it, a knife is likely to make someone die. It's *not* good at quickly stopping someone from fighting.

Range and stopping power beat lethality for self-defense. And escaping beats everything.

@Tattie @Impossible_PhD
Big agree. I used to work in a knife shop and appealed to my martial arts training to redirect people looking for self-defense to our pepper spray. If we'd sold solid umbrellas I would've recommended that, too.
As I put it, a knife is likely to make someone die. It's *not* good at quickly stopping someone from fighting.

Meatwharf15

@Tattie @Impossible_PhD I heard of this thing a while back, and maybe it could also be a good self-defense weapon. It’s also something that wouldn’t be seen as one until it’s used as such. poshmark.com/listing/Cat-Knuck

Mx Verda

@zgilmore
In the UK, I sometimes hear heavy flashlights recommended. Like a “throw it and run” kind of deal.

@Tattie @Impossible_PhD

Kit Rhett Aultman

@Tattie @Impossible_PhD I regularly re-read The Art Of War, and it's if note that Sun Tzu describes many kinds of ground your army will find itself on. The only one where all-out attack is advisor without question is called "fatal ground" or "lethal ground"; all other circumstances suggest a strategy of struggle without engagement. Clearly "only fight when you absolutely must" was understood for centuries.

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