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Niki Tonsky

Messaging:

- Telegram
- Slack
- Discord
- Whatsapp
- Signal
- iMessage

Social networks:

- Mastodon
- Twitter
- Bluesky
- Threads

Can we go back to unified world again, the one with open protocols and interoperability? I want one app per problem, not ten fractured partial apps for each problem

14 comments
Jack Rusher

@nikitonsky Even better: a choice of apps for each protocol 😊

Niki Tonsky

@jack that’s what I meant: many apps, each of which can _alone_ support all the platforms

dmitriid

@morganist @nikitonsky

Inused to run a single pidgin client for several services.

Good times

chebra

@nikitonsky We can. And some of us are doing it. But it involves leaving the bad platforms (twitter omg...). What are you waiting for?

Avi Flax

@nikitonsky I’m using Ivory right now along with my self-hosted ActivityPub server (Takahe) to see people’s posts, reply, etc.

IE you might be using Mastodon, but I’m not, and we can still socialize (lol).

So maybe that’s a promising glimmer of hope?

Eric Newport

@nikitonsky The answer to fractured messaging and social media is to use Matrix for messaging and Mastodon for social because they are open protocols that federate with other instances. We'll never be unified if we don't get more people to understand that.

Unfortunately most people think solving this problem means "go to what's already popular" but no proprietary protocol will ever be popular enough to unify everyone and to the extent that it sort-of does, it will never last.

Morj

@nikitonsky
Messaging: matrix with bridges to other networks (except imessage but who cares)

Social networks: mastodon with a bridge to bluesky (a bit sad for twitter)

Not pretty espectially the matrix part, but it works

Tuxicoman

@nikitonsky

You mean SMS?
The hack on mobile phone metadata layer which gave phone carrier the power to price it super expensive?
Or email that failed with spam and interactive use case? How long have you been waiting for video calls?

I dont think you can stop innovation. But i'I agree that enforcing the support of a minimal interoperable feature set could help. For exemple, companies et public admins enforced to publish their press release in RSS or to be defined minimal standard.

Niki Tonsky

@openbuddha @jonikorpi I mean, personally, sure. The problem is I have to communicate with other people

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