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pixelfed

Another productive evening, here's a few highlights:

✨ Profile UI
⚡ FastImage (image caching)
✨ Pagination (infinite scroll)
⚡ Better carousels

We're pausing new feature development to focus on shipping this app ASAP! #pixelfed #pixelfedApp
7 Jul 2022 at 8:54 | Open on mastodon.social
23 comments
Vancha :fedora:
Julian

@pixelfed
Will stories be supported in the initial release?

7 Jul 2022 at 9:02 | Open on social.tchncs.de
Yarmo 🕊

@pixelfed sorry to be the party pooper but this is a major red flag and something you are strongly suggested to reconsider

It has been beyond documented and studied in peer reviewed research that #infinitescrolling creates addictive experiences, designed by an industry that thrives on ads and #surveillancecapitalism

I am fairly certain you do not wish to be on their side of this ethical issue.

uxdesign.cc/the-infinite-scrol

7 Jul 2022 at 9:05 | Open on fosstodon.org
pixelfed

@yarmo There is no ethical issue when you remove the ads and tracking, as there is no incentive to encourage such behaviour.

The timeline pagination is simply a flatList with onEndReached logic, the non-ethical aspect comes in to play by exploiting that with ads or algorithms.

7 Jul 2022 at 9:59 | Open on mastodon.social
Caesar

@pixelfed @yarmo as a user I infinitely (ha) prefer infinite scroll over having to click "next" at the bottom of each page. But I also recognise @yarmo 's point about it potentially helping encourage harmful behaviour. Perhaps a user preference for this feature would be a good idea?

7 Jul 2022 at 10:08 | Open on indieweb.social
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pixelfed

@spacekookie @yarmo Promoting healthy use is a priority, and we're doing this by showing a screen time reminder after a period of time.

Addicting behaviour does not wait for infinite scrolling btw, adding a "load more" button wouldn't deter such behaviour.

That's why we're taking the proactive step in screen time reminders.

7 Jul 2022 at 10:26 | Open on mastodon.social
Strypey

@pixelfed
> adding a "load more" button wouldn't deter such behaviour.

Citation please? A lot of apps do exactly that. Or at least they make it an option in a well tab in the settings, like @pinafore does. I'm presuming that's based on some observations that it does deter some addictive screen use.

@spacekookie @yarmo

7 Jul 2022 at 11:10 | Open on mastodon.nzoss.nz
Yarmo 🕊

@pixelfed that is not how psychology works and this statement frightens me. Ads and tracking are just the way to abuse the addictions created by unethical tricks such as endless scrolling!

You are still creating an experience that will hurt the mentally vulnerable by inciting them to stay on the app instead of enjoying life!

7 Jul 2022 at 11:16 | Open on fosstodon.org
moving to: @twann@tech.lgbt

@yarmo @pixelfed perhaps a good alternative would be what #Tusky does: a "Load more" button?

7 Jul 2022 at 11:56 | Open on fosstodon.org
Linux in a Bit 🐧

@twann @yarmo @pixelfed
I think Mastodon does that too... Maybe infinite scrolling can be opt-in because personally I don't find it that addictive
(probably because my brain doesn't have a built up mindless scrolling addiction that comes from from using something like Twitter in the past)

7 Jul 2022 at 12:13 | Open on linuxrocks.online
Linux in a Bit 🐧

@twann @yarmo @pixelfed
I think their reasoning is that the addictive part is the algorithmically enhanced lottery effect every time you scroll, not the scrolling itself.

7 Jul 2022 at 12:28 | Open on linuxrocks.online
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@yarmo @pixelfed Just a minor detail but if you got enough of them new users can be scared away when they find Pixelfed just a little bit more complicated than Insta… At least personally i'd find it extremely annoying to press "Load more" every few seconds

Maybe you could make the discover timeline have a load more button and the normal be infinite 🤔

Bc the personal timeline seems rather unproblematic in my eyes (at least if you don't follow to many people)

7 Jul 2022 at 12:32 | Open on mastodon.social
pixelfed

@yarmo Sorry for the confusion, we meant the home timeline infinite scroll. The local/public and network timelines have a finite limit of 400 posts by default and discover is limited even more.

Another aspect of our infinite scroll implementation is how we interject after a threshold is met to remind users about healthy use practices.

I agree that it's dangerous to have an infinite scroll feed without some sort of limitation, look forward to your feedback and how we can improve this!

9 Jul 2022 at 9:25 | Open on mastodon.social
Lapineige

@pixelfed if infinite scrolling is one key design part in generating addictive behavior, I don't see why it would be a good thing even if the project has no financial interest linked to such a behavior.
@yarmo

7 Jul 2022 at 12:52 | Open on mamot.fr
Loren Lepton

@pixelfed how long do you think you have left before you can say 'cool!'?

7 Jul 2022 at 9:32 | Open on mastodon.social
Solinvictus :vm:

@pixelfed I gotta say it looks so damn sexy

7 Jul 2022 at 9:49 | Open on mastodontech.de
ernmander :AudioMo:

@pixelfed good luck looking forward to seeing the iOS version 😊

7 Jul 2022 at 10:19 | Open on floss.social
Emma :hf22:

@pixelfed it can be tested now or i have to wait till release?

7 Jul 2022 at 12:31 | Open on mstdn.cloud.themaymeow.com
Corentin

@pixelfed Nice ! There's a real need for caching images (& views) for people like me who try to use the PWA with very low bandwidth.

7 Jul 2022 at 13:39 | Open on mamot.fr
Felipe :wyd:
Whattodo

@pixelfed is this like Instagram but for mastadon?

7 Jul 2022 at 18:50 | Open on todon.eu
Michael

@pixelfed little feature request: Instagram Always loads your profile images. The device aching on your own profile must be minute to hours. Please cache your profile images for longer, so we don't waste data downloading them multiple times and they can be shown offline.

7 Jul 2022 at 19:30 | Open on mastodon.social
David Chartier

@pixelfed That's great news. I think the mobile app will help a lot.

7 Jul 2022 at 21:23 | Open on toot.cafe
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