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Simon Willison

@scott the problem I have with that model is that, taken to its logical conclusion, I shouldn't travel by car or bus or train, or purchase manufactured goods, or turn on the heating, or - you know - live

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Simon Willison

@scott if I'm going to do stuff that emits carbon I need to have some kind of framework for deciding what things I do and what things I don't

Gasper Zejn

@simon @scott
1. Avoid visiting gas stations.
2. Travel slow and near.
3. Avoid food from ruminants.
4. Repair.

Does this make sense?

chebra

@simon @scott But if living like that needs 2.5 Earths of resources, then it doesn't matter how many imaginary flights we skip. All it's doing is providing false rationalization, the feeling that we've "done enough". But we haven't. So it's part of the problem.

Scott 🏴

@simon yes, if it is at all afforded to you by your society, you should avoid doing things that consume energy up until the point where we've balanced our energy use budget with the earths resources. If you do not personally have that ability, it's very understandable: collective energy use requires collective efforts to reduce usage. Change must be pressed for at the societal level.

That said, it is absurd and ridiculous to compare the necessity to heat your home to the vanity of consuming that power in the form of a fancy lying-to-you machine is so ridiculous I can't believe I actually have to say it. I have never used one of these products and I'm still alive and well.

@simon yes, if it is at all afforded to you by your society, you should avoid doing things that consume energy up until the point where we've balanced our energy use budget with the earths resources. If you do not personally have that ability, it's very understandable: collective energy use requires collective efforts to reduce usage. Change must be pressed for at the societal level.

Simon Willison

@scott "I have never used one of these products and I'm still alive and well"

Then it's understandable that you wouldn't see why I value them more than an international flight!

I use them for a lot of things, some of it dumb but most of it genuinely useful simonwillison.net/series/using

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