Gregory's ServerThe upshot was that my appt. was needlessly longer because: a) Standard human dental checkup b) Compare results against #AI c) Human re-check to investigate AI results d) Confirm that AI results were bollocks e) Discussion about AI being bollocks and dangerous.
Everything after A was unnecessary
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 @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler my wife is a practice accountant and the drumbeat of "YOU NEED AI OR YOU'LL BE LEFT BEHIND" is constant through their current CPD courses - last year it was NFTs and Crypto. I assume it's the same for the likes of dentists, and they mostly have very little background to assess the claims, so their professional organisation are feeding them cons and a good percentage will fall for it. (Except my mathematician-accountant wife, of course!)  @Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler Oh lord, I wonder if this is what the sundry emails I've been getting requesting "a meeting to offer you new information and resources about [insert diagnosis here]" have been about.  @_L1vY_ @Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler I'm a journalist and just got a PR blitz from Chipotle bragging about an AI investment. They all have the same venture capital brainrot  @Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler  @Ralph058 @Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler How can it screen for errors? You would have to check every error it raised for "hallucinations". Then you would have to check all the records it didn't raise an error for, too. @fishidwardrobe @Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler You are thinking of LLMs. Many other neural network based systems have fewer errors than human subject matter experts. "Neural network" is just AI BS from a previous cycle. I'm a human subject matter expert i.e an expert and I've never seen a neural network based system that could do anything as well as someone programming data entry error checking. @richpuchalsky @fishidwardrobe @Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler @Ralph058 @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler it's precisely the sort of precise work that LLMs aren't good for, as far as I can see - and errors are expensive. @Ralph058 @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler autoentry is pretty useful, apparently, but that’s using “AI” to do the idiot intern work and then you check it later, which seems about right. And I don’t believe it’s LLM based. @Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler You don't want to involve AI in any sort of legalese (or in any other domain where exact meaning matters a lot).  @aaribaud @Ralph058 @Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler even arithmetic, on the sort of non trivial numbers you use in accounting, are beyond their ken. @aaribaud @Ralph058 @Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler except they're flogging it just as hard to lawyers as to everyone else. I will also second the distinction between gen AI and older AI - I use a number of non-gen AI tools in my practice, and they do save time. Document automation is a big one. @Ralph058 @Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler I mean, if by "help" you mean "commit malpractice" I agree with you. You know what helps in the exact same way and would not be malpractice? Human review. @Black_Flag no one appears to be making bank tho not even the shovel sellers. It's a bubble set to burst. @martycoote @Black_Flag the money is flowing into a lot of pockets so people are indeed making bank. that the business model is a failure is irrelevant due to widening inequality. @martycoote so much within our economy works the same way. it's not just AI. And of course it pisses us all off. @Richard_Littler In an inditement of the whole shit show, I’m perversely all for this stage of the AI ‘revolution’ where the products make their way into real business who actually care about whether the things they pay for are garbage or not. Sooner (please god, sooner) or later the useless products will be evaluated as useless and the market will hopefully implode on the back of insane running costs. We can but hope.
 @arniepix @Richard_Littler You can probably remove "your dentist's" from that sentence.  @Richard_Littler “See a drastic change in your patients/hour with our AI assistant!” …would be what a rational business owner would say before ending their relationship with the AI company, but if there’s one thing about the AI hype that isn’t hallucination, it’s proving how irrational business owners are. @WhiteCatTamer @Richard_Littler I can't find it now but I saw a study showing that individual private customers are very much *less likely* to purchase a product that has "AI". But corporate customers buying something for other workers to use are more likely to buy AI products  @NoiseColor @Richard_Littler Good point. May want to ask https://ico.org.uk/ about that.. The next step is undoubtedly "The AI is never wrong. If it says it's there, fix it, so we can charge for it." @NinjaDebugger @Richard_Littler That would be my concern as well. We’ve had 5 different dentists in the last 12 years, mostly due to insurance changes. We left the second one because he seemed “filling happy”. We didn’t have him do the work, and none of the three since then have said a word about the areas which supposedly needed work. I would definitely not trust him with an AI money generator.  @Richard_Littler@mastodon.social True. Xrays and similar have been successfully counter checked with "AI" and found to be very accurate.  I'm torn because some areas of medicine like radiology are almost ideally suited to machine learning, but it almost always underdelivers, and often times for absurdly ridiculous reasons (e.g., overfitting on posture of patients, writing on margins of images, etc.).  Why are they using it when it's obviously not working? Is it a case of "we've paid for it so we're going to use it come what may"? @Richard_Littler Don't worry: when we have the next crop of newly qualified dentists lacking those years of experience, they can blissfully rely on AI and good luck to their patients. |
@Richard_Littler So AI makes the real world worse but the needs of AI producers to make bank have needlessly interjected their crappy products into it.