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@Richard_Littler So AI makes the real world worse but the needs of AI producers to make bank have needlessly interjected their crappy products into it.

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Colman Reilly

@Black_Flag @Richard_Littler my wife is a practice accountant and the drumbeat of "YOU NEED AI OR YOU'LL BE LEFT BEHIND" is constant through their current CPD courses - last year it was NFTs and Crypto.

I assume it's the same for the likes of dentists, and they mostly have very little background to assess the claims, so their professional organisation are feeding them cons and a good percentage will fall for it.

(Except my mathematician-accountant wife, of course!)

Mother Bones

@Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler Oh lord, I wonder if this is what the sundry emails I've been getting requesting "a meeting to offer you new information and resources about [insert diagnosis here]" have been about.

berserk du soleil

@_L1vY_ @Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler I'm a journalist and just got a PR blitz from Chipotle bragging about an AI investment. They all have the same venture capital brainrot

Ralph058 (S/he/it) AF4EZ

@Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler
I believe AI could help accounting. For example screening for entry errors, reading W2s, 1099s, and the sundry trust forms. Identifying deductions that might have been missed.
However, they are pedaling LLMs which I find would have little use other than translating the legalize in the the tax laws, but in general, there are good manuals and trade articles for that already.

Fish Id Wardrobe

@Ralph058 @Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler How can it screen for errors? You would have to check every error it raised for "hallucinations". Then you would have to check all the records it didn't raise an error for, too.

Ralph058 (S/he/it) AF4EZ

@fishidwardrobe @Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler You are thinking of LLMs. Many other neural network based systems have fewer errors than human subject matter experts.

Rich Puchalsky β©œβƒ

@Ralph058

"Neural network" is just AI BS from a previous cycle. I'm a human subject matter expert i.e an expert and I've never seen a neural network based system that could do anything as well as someone programming data entry error checking.

@fishidwardrobe @Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler

Colman Reilly

@Ralph058 @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler it's precisely the sort of precise work that LLMs aren't good for, as far as I can see - and errors are expensive.

Colman Reilly

@Ralph058 @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler autoentry is pretty useful, apparently, but that’s using β€œAI” to do the idiot intern work and then you check it later, which seems about right. And I don’t believe it’s LLM based.

Ralph058 (S/he/it) AF4EZ

@Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler
There are many tools in the AI kit. Some will do better than humans and others won't. The design process needs SME as a core part of the design team to make them come together in a useful tool.
I have worked on development of AI based systems. Subject matter experts (SME) came late in the design cycle
and resulted in significant rework.

Albert ARIBAUD β“‚

@Ralph058

You don't want to involve AI in any sort of legalese (or in any other domain where exact meaning matters a lot).

@Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler

MarjorieR

@aaribaud @Ralph058 @Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler even arithmetic, on the sort of non trivial numbers you use in accounting, are beyond their ken.

ECityHuman

@aaribaud @Ralph058 @Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler except they're flogging it just as hard to lawyers as to everyone else. I will also second the distinction between gen AI and older AI - I use a number of non-gen AI tools in my practice, and they do save time. Document automation is a big one.

Amoshias

@Ralph058 @Colman @Black_Flag @Richard_Littler I mean, if by "help" you mean "commit malpractice" I agree with you.

You know what helps in the exact same way and would not be malpractice? Human review.

Marty Coote

@Black_Flag no one appears to be making bank tho not even the shovel sellers. It's a bubble set to burst.

Aaron

@martycoote @Black_Flag the money is flowing into a lot of pockets so people are indeed making bank. that the business model is a failure is irrelevant due to widening inequality.

Aaron

@martycoote so much within our economy works the same way. it's not just AI. And of course it pisses us all off.

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