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Jack Zhang (๐Ÿ“น๐Ÿฆ Raccoon)

@ThePlant I'm skeptical of Vivaldi for as long as they are a Chromium fork. If they decide to spin up their own web rendering engine, I would be all for it.

15 October at 5:35 | Wall-to-wall | Open on furry.engineer
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Thibault Molleman๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช ๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ

@JackRacc @ThePlant there are non Chromium options though. Like @zenbrowser which is a reskin of firefox youtu.be/tKM2N4TQHQY

15 October at 5:40 | Open on en.osm.town
Jack Zhang (๐Ÿ“น๐Ÿฆ Raccoon)

@thibaultmol @ThePlant Yet I do know people that are overall concerned about Mozilla becoming a adtech/AI company as well. We need a new web rendering engine made by people and actually for the people.

Toggles can always be deprecated without notice.

15 October at 5:44 | Open on furry.engineer
Thibault Molleman๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช ๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ

@JackRacc
Well yeah, but until those are ready, this is better. Zen (i think) said they'll have those things disabled in their fork. Don't quote me on that.

There is a new browser called ladybird but the founders are transphobic iirc
ladybird.org/

And there's servo which so far seems good servo.org/

But neither are ready for prime time yet, so until them I'm using Firefox forks like zen
@ThePlant

@JackRacc
Well yeah, but until those are ready, this is better. Zen (i think) said they'll have those things disabled in their fork. Don't quote me on that.

There is a new browser called ladybird but the founders are transphobic iirc
ladybird.org/

And there's servo which so far seems good servo.org/

15 October at 5:50 | Open on en.osm.town
Jack Zhang (๐Ÿ“น๐Ÿฆ Raccoon)

@thibaultmol @ThePlant I actually use Floorp because it has the old pre Firefox 88 UI ported forward. And it's built on the ESR branch. I don't like the standard release branch.

15 October at 5:53 | Open on furry.engineer
Jack Zhang (๐Ÿ“น๐Ÿฆ Raccoon)

@thibaultmol Yikes, Floorp recently discontinued userChrome CSS mods in release binaries. Last sane version seems to be 11.16.

15 October at 6:16 | Open on furry.engineer
Jack Zhang (๐Ÿ“น๐Ÿฆ Raccoon)

@thibaultmol Yeah, Zen just looks like Safari for a modern macOS. I have a very specific look I was targetting and Floorp helped get there. Shame it dropped userChrome in it's newer releases.

15 October at 6:29 | Open on furry.engineer
Thibault Molleman๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช ๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ

@JackRacc wel tbf, the selling point of zen is the ui customization through it's mod/theme store.

But yeah, i get it if you're going for a specific look

15 October at 7:06 | Open on en.osm.town
Jack Zhang (๐Ÿ“น๐Ÿฆ Raccoon)

@thibaultmol I was a huge fan of Classic Theme Restorer for NPAPI back in those days.

I just want pre FF 88 UI with a movable hamburger menu and all extensions shown rather than hidden in a button.

If I had more time to research, hopefully there will be a way in Zen, but I still like the ESR channel.

15 October at 7:32 | Open on furry.engineer
Flaky :blue_jay:โ€‹

@JackRacc @ThePlant tbh both engines are run by adtech companies so itโ€™s a matter of picking your poison at this point.

Vivaldi does want to but the issue lies with them being way too small to even deal with Firefoxโ€™s quirks.

15 October at 7:50 | Open on furry.engineer
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