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Luca

@vidister bissi merkwürdig das es Rechts rot wird? oder ist das ab 6,01?

TobiasG

@Der_Lichttechniker @vidister Also entweder wurde das Bild verändert oder wir haben sehr unterschiedliche Farbwahrnehmung. Der Kreis wird rechts (also mehr richtung IPv6) grün, und links (also richtung IPv4) rot.

nota 🦈✨

@vidister hm, I'm not mathy or awake enough but I wonder, does this actually mean 77% ipv6 or is the mapping weird because of the offset

io / mira

@nota @vidister Hmm unless I'm being stupid this should work out to a fraction of (5.77-4)/(6-4)=0.885 of all traffic being v6

props to whoever is achieving adoption numbers that high, nice!

nota 🦈✨

@io @vidister oh yeah, people are always surprised by the high v6 traffic numbers, but it's actually pretty normal!

It's that probability paradox thing where adoption among subscribers is poor and servers are even worse, so the global averages are terrible. But because the highest bandwidth services, the big tech company CDNs, all support v6, if you *do* enable it the far majority of residential traffic will generally be v6 without much work.

fiona float 🐈

@nota @io this creates the weird phenomenon where at night and on weekends/holidays there is a way better IPv6 adoption than during a workday.

9er

@vidister @nota @io we have a dashboard that guesses if we currently have school holidays, based on the fraction of IPv6 traffic on our webservers over the last few days

Wilbur

@9er sounds like that could actually work, my school switched ISPs and havent even enabled IPv6 yet so I wouldn't be surprised if most schools only really use v4

9er

@wilbur We have been ISP for ~3500 schools until a few months ago and yes, that's the sad reality.

adorfer

@9er @wilbur sounds like "IPv4 based website blocking".

Wilbur

@adorfer @9er it’s not though, all of our schools website blocking is done through DNS (and yes I've tested), the network blocks all port 53 traffic unless it's to a school DNS server (and they break all the time I hate it so much)

9er

@wilbur @adorfer I've made my piece with DNS blocking for schools. Teachers/officials want a way to be legally safe and more important: safe from angry parents. Our service had pretty much 100% uptime over the last few years. We had very very few cases of overblocking. The lists come from a commercial service, so it didn't need any work once it was deployed. Sure, there's usually a way to bypass it, but if someone is smart enough to do that, they could also find other ways to watch porn...

Chris Ford

@nota @io @vidister high penetration in mobile networks too (posting from my phone that only has a v6 address, because the network is single stack v6 on the RAN side)

Saxnot

@io @nota @vidister could have calculated 1,77/2 for the same result.

It's not even grouped by service or something. Who knows if >88 % of that traffic is just a single noisy IPv6 service

Tanith the Gay

@tob @IngaLovinde @nota @vidister The average IP version is not 5.77. IP Ivy, who lives in a datacenter and runs IPv1048676, is an outlier and should not have been counted.

SkaveRat 🐀 :verified:

@vidister a gauge is neat, but a graph could be interesting

NO5IG

@vidister “average IP version is 5.77" factoid actualy just statistical error. average IP version is 4. Networking Georg, who lives in cave & runs IPv10,000 is an outlier adn should not have been counted

Jamie Gaskins

@NO5IG @vidister Came to the replies to see if there was an IP Georg post. Was not disappointed. 😂

Dorothea Salo

@NO5IG @vidister I knew this had to be somewhere in the thread. KNEW IT.

Thank you for your service.

Bill's in the shop for repairs

@vidister I bet we could make this a pie chart if we really tried.

Alyx :neocat_flag_ace:

@vidister This is so cursed, I like it :neocat_laugh_nervous:

I think this will be soon part of our companies monitoring too :neocat_laugh_tears:

Meko #nowar
@alyx @vidister make it showing 3,95 and 6,05 sometimes :neocat_evil:
Григорий Клюшников

That's very odd considering I've only ever seen native IPv6 on servers.

sodigay :pride_heart:

@vidister@chaos.social by what metric? this feels very biased

the weighted average IP version based on how many IP addresses use that version (i.e. an objective unbiased metric) is approximately IPv5.9999999999999999999999999999747564510329276222268246859112694590326838845319170399269005950505014490134462277008293031725072535 (or, to be exact, IP version 475368975085586025561263702020/79228162514264337593543950337)

Chloe Raccoon

@vidister @patterfloof I just wish I didn't have to keep disabling my V6 stack to access some sites.

kæt

@fbobraga @vidister I daren't turn ours on. They say they support IPv6 (big UK-based domestic ISP), but they struggle with IPv4 DNS A record lookups, so the chances of it working are minimal, I reckon!

Mike

@vidister I was thinking about this earlier this year, but my ISP (RCN) still doesn't support ipv6.

I was thinking about testing it out on my home network and router. I have a lot to learn once I start this, but I need to wait for my ISP.

Most of the computers on my network are assigned static ipv4 addresses by DHCP on my router.

kasperd

I am quite curious where that measurement is being made. And is it averaged by packets or by octets?

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