@Brendanjones at the same time, many of those are pretty convenient and someone pays for the other models. I would expect someone would want feature parity and similar support, availability... There's also the security challenges... I guess, it'd be nice but if it were practical, there'd be more of an open alternative and still requires some model of payment somewhere. What's any truly working model as such just open? Still paying for power, communications, discovery/adoption and equipment