@hopfgeist @stefano Indeed these old machines were upgradable and repairable, unlike the recent M* Notebooks. If you buy an M3 MacBook today, you better go for the best machine you can get, otherwise you’ll regret later. From this perspective I find Framework notebooks quite interesting, but of course they are no mobile workstations. It’s difficult. I liked the reliability and runtime of Apple machines, but each time you buy a new one, they are more and more expensive.