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Stefano Marinelli

The slides, the video, and the text behind my presentation at EuroBSDCon 2024 - 'Why and how we're migrating many of our servers from Linux to the BSDs.'

it-notes.dragas.net/2024/10/03

#ITNotes #FreeBSD #OpenBSD #NetBSD #RunBSD #IT #SysAdmin #EuroBSDCon #EBC24 #EuroBSDCon24 #EuroBSDCon2024 #NoteHUB

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dch :flantifa: :flan_hacker:

@stefano ... and it was a pleasure to meet you in person too! #Bonus

Stefano Marinelli

@dch I also really enjoyed meeting you in person! I hope we can meet again soon.

Stefano Marinelli

@vermaden Yes 🙂 I've been glad that many attending live recognized this sentence 🙂

espoleto :iterm2_logo:

@stefano +1 moving to BSDs inspired by you ! Awesome work!

Stefano Marinelli

@espoleto Thank you! I'm so happy when I read messages like yours - it gives me the right energy to go on with all this.

Francesco P Lovergine

@stefano
Interesting post; I'm primarily interested in how are your experiences with hardware supports for BSD flavors. This is my main worry when considering non-Linux solutions.

Francesco P Lovergine

@stefano
I would add that a pro for BSD OSes is documentation. Linux information is a damn spread among tons of incoherent sources, often obsoleted.

Stefano Marinelli

@gisgeek If dealing with servers, I've never had big problems - it usually runs and is stable.
With laptops, I've had more problems - many of them are solvable, but require some efforts. Better experience when dealing with desktop computers.

Bernd

@stefano
Similar to my philosophy: #BSD wherever possible, Linux if BSD is unsuitable or just too much effort. I only administrate my own servers, but the only two cases where BSD wasn't feasible are Collabora Office and #BigBlueButton. #NextCloud, Webserver, Backup-Server (Time Machine via #netatalk, and #rsnapshot) all run on #NetBSD with #ZFS, some in their own #nvmm virtual machine.
That's for servers, on the desktop I use Mac, but have one virtual machine with Windows for the air navigation planning suite (SkyDemon).

@stefano
Similar to my philosophy: #BSD wherever possible, Linux if BSD is unsuitable or just too much effort. I only administrate my own servers, but the only two cases where BSD wasn't feasible are Collabora Office and #BigBlueButton. #NextCloud, Webserver, Backup-Server (Time Machine via #netatalk, and #rsnapshot) all run on #NetBSD with #ZFS, some in their own #nvmm virtual machine.
That's for servers, on the desktop I use Mac, but have one virtual machine with Windows for the air navigation...

Doerk

@hopfgeist @stefano That’s a sensible approach and I totally agree. There are some (few) things that only work on Linux, but most times BSD is a good decision. I am not sure about Mac for workstation. Yes, it is convenient and works perfectly with long battery runtime, but I don’t like their pricing policy and the fact they keep you in their walled garden and are limiting the opportunities to tweak the system.

Bernd

@doerk @stefano I am aware of the problems with macOS, and maybe my next desktop will run Linux (probably not BSD, mostly because of the X-Plane flight simulator), now that decent video editors are available, which was not the case eleven years ago.
I currently use an 11 year old iMac 27", with 32 GB RAM (which is crazy expensive to have on current machines), upgraded with an SSD and running Ventura thanks to the Open Core Legacy Patcher. It runs everything I need at decent speeds, except X-Plane 12, because that needs Metal features the hardware just won't provide.
So, I'm mostly happy.

@doerk @stefano I am aware of the problems with macOS, and maybe my next desktop will run Linux (probably not BSD, mostly because of the X-Plane flight simulator), now that decent video editors are available, which was not the case eleven years ago.
I currently use an 11 year old iMac 27", with 32 GB RAM (which is crazy expensive to have on current machines), upgraded with an SSD and running Ventura thanks to the Open Core Legacy Patcher. It runs everything I need at decent speeds, except X-Plane...

Doerk

@hopfgeist @stefano Indeed these old machines were upgradable and repairable, unlike the recent M* Notebooks. If you buy an M3 MacBook today, you better go for the best machine you can get, otherwise you’ll regret later. From this perspective I find Framework notebooks quite interesting, but of course they are no mobile workstations. It’s difficult. I liked the reliability and runtime of Apple machines, but each time you buy a new one, they are more and more expensive.

Matthias Köhne

@stefano really an entertaining and interesting presentation! Thanks a lot!

Adriano 🐡

@stefano It was an enriching read. I like your problem-solving philosophy. Thank you for sharing. Implementing a rock solid solution will always the better choice compared to the trendy one.

Stefano Marinelli

@barbosaaob Thank you! I agree - rock solid solutions outlast the hypes/trendy ones.

JustDude 🌞

@stefano Thanks for sharing, detailed story and slides!

pdnight

@stefano Would love to hear more details about those XFS and btrfs failures if possible. It's an interesting subject!

Stefano Marinelli

@pdnight sure, l can post some more details about those problems.

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