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Eugen Rochko

Happy to be a launch partner of the Social Web Foundation (@swf). Excited to see other organizations being built to push the fediverse forward!

socialwebfoundation.org/2024/0

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b-loved dreamer

@Gargron

Their feed seems to be broken, can’t subscribe

@swf

Condalmo.

@Gargron @swf

Featuring Meta?

"Follow us on X"?

Nope.

Condalmo.

@Gargron @swf Meta being part of the Social Web Foundation ( @swf ) is like having Henry Potter on the board at the Bailey Building and Loan.

Marta Threadbare

@Gargron @swf excuse me, but why does fedi need an entrepierner product director, or a product director at all?

Curious Magpie

@Gargron @swf Good luck with that - I will be moving to another instance now that I have the time - .social is less and less appealing.

AlexTECPlayz

@Gargron @swf@socialwebfoundation.org I gave SWF the benefit of the doubt for a little while to let others dig into it, but SWF doesn't seem good at all for the Fediverse. There's already a lack of transparency.

WHY are there stakeholders? Why is there a team of self-chosen leaders instead of letting the entire 'Fediverse' vote on this? What are the concrete goals of the foundation?

- Where are proposals for some universal moderation tools and functionality that would be integrated in AP and the 'main' AP services such as Mastodon?
- WHO exactly are the stakeholders? What are each stakeholder's % in SWF? (For example, is Meta's stake bigger than Mastodon's?)
- Why are companies known to ignore extremist and hateful content (Meta, Medium) on board? Nothing specifically against Meta working on improving Fedi, but they don't have a great track record, even with the recent Threads release.

@Gargron @swf@socialwebfoundation.org I gave SWF the benefit of the doubt for a little while to let others dig into it, but SWF doesn't seem good at all for the Fediverse. There's already a lack of transparency.

WHY are there stakeholders? Why is there a team of self-chosen leaders instead of letting the entire 'Fediverse' vote on this? What are the concrete goals of the foundation?

Leta_Darnell

@Gargron @swf So what does it do? Facebook (which is Meta only in name) sides with it. It says it wants to improve Threads, but the news just broke that Threads is now almost entirely ragebait.

Does 'open' mean 'we allow hatespeech or that moderators blame victims which Tribel does?

Marianne Tiel

@Gargron @swf
Hi Gargron, your blocking actions are sometimes not ok. We've seen that before (Fokke en Sukke) and now again @LALegaut@newsiesocial Please be reasonable.

Kevin Russell

@Gargron @swf

This is my reason for callin for a replacement for Mastodon.

Eugen Rochko

@kevinrns @swf I am not sure what this means, but you can use a different fediverse platform today. Whether it's Misskey, Pixelfed, Akkoma, Friendica or one of the dozens more, if you find something that works better for you, great!

Kevin Russell

@Gargron @swf

It means meta and threads are corporate subversives working to destroy democracy structurally and financially, social parasites.

enshittification, corporate tech Bros, Facebook integration, integration with Jack, still with million$ in xitter, no thank you.

No thank you, corrupts the entire fediverse

Looking for better, expecting better.

Luna Lactea

@Gargron @kevinrns @swf What it means is that we don't want corporations like Automattic & Facebook to touch fediverse, & Mastodon has a reputation for being overly accepting towards corporations such as those. Those companies have harmed us before, & we're worried that Mastodon will use its popularity to allow them to hurt us again. Even if Mastodon has good intentions by trying to make fediverse bigger & help more people find their way into it, our past experiences tell us that companies like these are going to abuse that. They're going to use the leverage you're giving them to Embrace, Extend, Extinguish, or at least sell us & our data again or harass & silence us again.

@Gargron @kevinrns @swf What it means is that we don't want corporations like Automattic & Facebook to touch fediverse, & Mastodon has a reputation for being overly accepting towards corporations such as those. Those companies have harmed us before, & we're worried that Mastodon will use its popularity to allow them to hurt us again. Even if Mastodon has good intentions by trying to make fediverse bigger & help more people find their way into it, our past experiences tell us that companies like these...

thanos cosmatos

@Gargron @swf good luck with getting your platform embrace extend extinguished 👍

Michel Campillo

@Gargron @swf
Il ne faut pas s'emballer, l'intention de Eugen Rochko n'est pas d'ouvrir un compte #Facebook ou #Threads à mon avis 😉 Mastodon aussi bien que la Social Web Foundation adhérent aux principes d'un web social ouvert, décentralisé et interopérable, donc je ne vois rien de choquant dans cette annonce. #SWF
michelcampillo.com/blog/7381.h

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