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Jordan Maris ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ #NAFO

@Gurre Never mistake for malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence, my friend.

Joakim Fors

@jmaris @Gurre Well, Elon has admitted that Hyperloop was introduced to sabotage the HSR plans in California.

Jordan Maris ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ #NAFO

@joakimfors @Gurre It's less of a thing in Europe because we already have working High Speed Rail

Joakim Fors

@jmaris @Gurre Sure, but the hyperloop "meme" is out there now and used as a distraction by any and all that want to prevent more actual rail from being built.

Gurre Vildskรคgg

@jmaris @joakimfors
And while many of the hyperloop companies might be various scams to siphon money from investors, the various government bodies investing in them are probably just really bad at seeing a hype bubble for being just hype without substance.

Veza85UE

@Gurre @jmaris @joakimfors ๐Ÿ’ฏ I don't know if she's hired outside of the German bubble in her cabinet (which has landed her in trouble in the past), but there's bound to be some toxic FDP bro if not in the team at least vdL-team adjacent who's not very up-to-date on the topic and thought it would sound really hip and with it in a policy document. And others who know it's bs, but eh, it's non-legislative as Jon points out, so let them have it, they'll forget all about by the holidays anyway.

sidereal

@jmaris @joakimfors @Gurre Right, and the fact that people are still seriously talking about this stuff after Musk publicly admitted that is why this seems like malice rather than incompetence.

robloblaw

@jmaris @joakimfors @Gurre
But its not working nearly as well as it could. The EUs plan to improve high speed rail needs investment. And that is a threat to automakers and airlines.

John Rohde Jensen

@jmaris @joakimfors @Gurre I tried TGV last week, it were slow, crowded and generally underwhelming.
Europe does a fine job sabotaging its own HSR.

Joakim Fors

@jmaris @johnrohde @Gurre Perhaps it was one of these: tgvshop.org/

Bit crowded if more than one person and looks kinda slow

0xC0DEC0DE07E8

@jmaris yes, and the maintenance and improvement of that network is a much better use of funds than this pipe dream. Techbros stop trying to reinvent trains but worse challenge 2024.
@joakimfors @Gurre

Jordan Maris ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ #NAFO

@joakimfors I'm aware, but I am not convinced that Musk is responsible for this in Europe. Also there are very few organisations in Europe that would profit from this

GhostOnTheHalfShell

@jmaris @joakimfors

Billionaire malignancy is transnational. They fund neoliberalism and extremism in Europe. See UK riots etc.

GhostOnTheHalfShell

@jmaris @Gurre

In this case it is both. Musk pimped hyperloop to derail (high speed rail) in the US. Here you get both in one package.

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