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Drew DeVault

Also in case it wasn't clear the primary motivator is landlords who are losing their investment in office real estate, combined with C-level FOMO on those investments, and pressure from commercial landlords on local government -- not any kind of mythical IRL synergy or whatever

Drew DeVault

Anyway if all of the proported benefits of RTO are real they apply equally to profit as they do to union organizing so make the most of it

Drew DeVault

Apple spent 5 billion on their campus lol, it's embarrassing if it sits empty, this is the main reason why they want butts in chairs

Arch :arch:

@drewdevault Yeah it doesn't help that post COVID, some companies decided they actually didn't need the office, so other companies snapped up cheap floors in the buildings they were already in and renovated them - then realised nobody was coming in, so mandated 3 days in office.

I quit shortly after that came about.

lalalala sombra

@drewdevault Google spent a good billion buying and refurbishing a mega office in prime location London in 2019 to consolidate all its London offices. It now sits there with minimal utilization and there has been no consolidation so far.

bbc.co.uk/news/business-599802

theguardian.com/business/2022/

Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

@drewdevault ah yes, entrepreneurial investors.

"We get the big bucks because we take risks!"

<risk materializes>

"Wait, no, not like that!"

LogicalErzor

@drewdevault I can’t wait until the day when office buildings are converted into homes because of the economics of WFH

marius

@drewdevault I'm in the process of fighting my ex-employer's RTO in court. I just had my first mediation hearing yesterday but I'm not very optimistic.

However I'll do the thing to the end. The more painful it will be for the company the better I'll feel.

When I was discussing the matter with HR before being sacked, I tried to impress on them that should allow exceptions for people susceptible to over stimulation (which I consider myself to be one). They countered with "bring a diagnosis". It's amazing how years of meaningful service bring one no good will when it's in opposition to the corporate interest.

@drewdevault I'm in the process of fighting my ex-employer's RTO in court. I just had my first mediation hearing yesterday but I'm not very optimistic.

However I'll do the thing to the end. The more painful it will be for the company the better I'll feel.

When I was discussing the matter with HR before being sacked, I tried to impress on them that should allow exceptions for people susceptible to over stimulation (which I consider myself to be one). They countered with "bring a diagnosis". It's amazing...

Joe Brockmeier

@drewdevault I wrote something about this yesterday elsewhere: Short version, my wife is now on week 5 of 6 weeks post-surgery and can't put any weight on her right leg, and her left leg is just barely weight-bearing. (Torn meniscus, both knees, one repaired + one yet to be operated on.)

Obviously - she couldn't RTO right now. And neither could I, since she can't walk or drive. Happily this is temporary + we both work from home, but RTO is actively harmful + stupid for so many people.

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