Gregory's Server@LilahTovMoon oh my god…. Find myself wondering: Is this a design, erm, feature or a defect of that particular vehicle?
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 @laprice @Wifiwits @LilahTovMoon The whole system should immediately cut power if there current where it doesn't belong, ESPECIALLY with such obvious parts like the chassis. The fact there is no security feature that prevents stuff like this… hard to find any word describing it better than "third-world design / engineering". It's a garbage product you'd only expect off of AliExpress, simply garbage. @laprice @Wifiwits @LilahTovMoon Given all the things I heard about Musk I believe there simply ain't enough people that prevent him from doing nonsense at Tesla, like there are at SpaceX. "Drive-by-wire" also sounds like he saw some documentary about how Fly-by-wire made fighting jets more cool and suddenly wanted that for cars. @Wifiwits @LilahTovMoon Don't believe everything you see - there are many ways a vehicle can be modified to produce this unsafe condition. There are actual engineers on staff at Tesla designing and building these cars, and engineers (real engineers, not tech-bros) have an unwavering code of ethics leaning towards safety. Whatever you think of Musk, or Teslas, or people that buy Cybertrucks, please don't lump the engineers and workers at Tesla with them.  @rhempel @Wifiwits @LilahTovMoon If it were common, I'd expect to be able to find more examples of it by searching. I found this, that seems similar: But I'm still not sure. @JeffGrigg @Wifiwits @LilahTovMoon That post has plenty of comments pointing to the wall connection possibly being wired incorrectly - and that makes some sense in the installer mixed something up. There is a GF interrupter in the wall connector that should trip well below the hazard level - that's why you don't die when your kitchen or bathroom appliance cord fails and you touch it. All that's out the window with an incorrect install.  @JeffGrigg If this was serious and that guy was the owner of the car, do you think he'd be laughing like that? I don't. Cybertrucks are the butt of jokes all over the world and this is just another one imo.  @rhempel @Wifiwits @LilahTovMoon e.g. Volkswagen/VW cars won’t start charging if ground is not connected properly - so while you can’t charge them from a power bank, you won’t be able to electrocute yourself either. @vampirdaddy @Wifiwits @LilahTovMoon Yeah I totally get it about Cybertrucks and pedestrians - they really are killers. One of the reasons cars ended up with soft corners years ago was to bounce humans instead of slicing them. I suspect Elon did have a ham-handed approach to Cybertrucks.  @rhempel «I suspect Elon did have a ham-handed approach to Cybertrucks» — wait, so it's elon now, not those engineers you mentioned before? ;-) @tivasyk I realize I'm speaking out both sides of my mouth :-) Watch James May's review of Cybertruck - he clearly points out how the side body panel protrudes where it meets the hood - it's a pedestrian killer for sure. I will bet Cybertruck had a lot of engineers quit - and that vehicle was an Elon pet project - and he got his way over objections by bullying. I'm sensitive to this because I'm an engineer - and I've been put in tight design binds, but I've never compromised public safety. @rhempel "Engineers...have an unwavering code of ethics leaning towards safety." Eh. There are awful, unethical engineers. There are good ones, too. This far into Musk showing the world exactly who he is, I'm inclined to believe a not insignificant number of the engineers willing to work in his cos aren't the best or most ethical. @neonharbinger yes there are awful and unethical engineers, but in general, we can be trusted to do the right thing more often than not :-) @rhempel Many of my family/friends are engineers. Also work w/ them. Many I know wouldn't willingly choose to work for a Musk co at this point. Several have even refused interviews. It's worth wondering what kind of folks choose to work in Musk's cos and what results they deliver. Imo, they're either diehard Musk fans and so generally untrustworthy, so money-driven they'll ignore numerous scandals, or in a bind and must work for him (no other offers, visa needs). Not a great recipe for quality.  @rhempel @neonharbinger Under your definition, does “doing the right thing” extend to not working for an open fascist intent on destroying the oldest democracy in the world or is this optional. |
@Wifiwits @LilahTovMoon It's probably a defect; but the fact that that defect can happen and not be found and rejected during manufacturing... is the design flaw.