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Dr. Quadragon ❌

@shuro

> Let's be honest - the main reason is that there is no GUI for these tasks or it sucks ass

Sorry, but this is just plain wrong. I don't even need to change the example, GUI for package management is basically a solved problem. There are plenty of package management GUIs, and most of them are good.

"Issue this command" is still more efficient to write.

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Шуро

Just fired up Gnome Software Center (or whatever it is called). It took good 15 seconds to start showing anything (which for average user means "something is broken"), search is counterintuitive and it offers Firefox from Flathub (I bet it wouldn't show anything if I had no Flatpak AND gnome extension installed before).

It is not a disaster but there's a lot of room for improvement.

And again it depends on how you view efficiency of your documentation. When it comes to package installation - most of the time it is true. When it comes to the rest of use cases - mostly there is no alternative anyway so it is easy to be efficient :)

Just fired up Gnome Software Center (or whatever it is called). It took good 15 seconds to start showing anything (which for average user means "something is broken"), search is counterintuitive and it offers Firefox from Flathub (I bet it wouldn't show anything if I had no Flatpak AND gnome extension installed before).

Dr. Quadragon ❌

@shuro

> It took good 15 seconds to start showing anything

How old is your machine? It fires up instantly for me.

> I bet it wouldn't show anything if I had no Flatpak

Of course it wouldn't, as GSC is a flatpak GUI.

> AND gnome extension

Huh?

> And again it depends on how you view efficiency of your documentation

I define it as "easier to write and works for most cases".

Шуро

T480 with 8GB and some kind of SSD :) And yes, it fires up instantly but then takes a theatrical pause before actually showing anything if it wasn't run recently. I guess it does something like "apt list" and "apt update" in the background and then parses it.

I think GSC needs gnome-software-plugin-flatpak to show flatpack repos (in addition to core package) which I have installed but I think it doesn't get installed by default.

As for everything else - again, you don't really have a choice in most cases. In Windows you can install and configure web server (IIS) both GUI and CLI way. In Linux it is mostly just CLI.

Actually I can't even think of anything except software installation where you can have reasonable choice between CLI and GUI approaches in Linux.

T480 with 8GB and some kind of SSD :) And yes, it fires up instantly but then takes a theatrical pause before actually showing anything if it wasn't run recently. I guess it does something like "apt list" and "apt update" in the background and then parses it.

I think GSC needs gnome-software-plugin-flatpak to show flatpack repos (in addition to core package) which I have installed but I think it doesn't get installed by default.

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