Gregory's Server@magitweeter @violetmadder @Daojoan No, I am saying that if the people I was renting from, were not allowed to own a residence they did not reside in, they would not be able to provide me with the housing, with the home that they have provided me with.
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@violetmadder @magitweeter @Daojoan There is nothing, nothing at all that is "zen" about the perspective that I am offering, let alone "totally zen". Perhaps in your haste to dismiss my perspective with an arrogant, condescending and patronizing response, you felt it was ok to just lean into this lazy habit that people have developed of using the word "zen" as an umbrella term which points to absolutely nothing close to what the word "zen" actually points to. @violetmadder @magitweeter @Daojoan Just to be clear, my perspective is a result of many years of exploring and developing my own world views, and my own ways of being in this world. As incomprehensible, or even as offensive as it may be to you - diminishing it by simply seeing it as being simplistic or uninformed, is neither reasonable or respectful. "I don't know, and you don't either". Words to live by. @violetmadder @magitweeter @Daojoan Do you know my landlords? Why are you assuming that they are using the rent I pay them to save up to buy more houses? Thats quite a narrative you have there, unfortunately, it does not align with my experience. Me - that's who you are talking to here, maybe try to respond to that, rather then broad generalizations. I have no need, nor intention, to save up to buy my own home - I am happy to be a renter. @storyworker @magitweeter @Daojoan The original post is about a broad dynamic fundamental to how our ENTIRE society has been working for centuries. Your personal experience and opinion is all very well and good, but what has it got to do with the discussion of these larger issues? Certainly. No one can rent you a home they don't own. if owning rental homes were forbidden then you could not be a renter, so you would presumably procure a home some other way. What confuses me is that you present this as something to be glad about. Because @violetmadder said things should be different, and you say you're glad for the way things are, it looks like you're saying things should not be different. Do you understand that your post could be read this way? @magitweeter @violetmadder yes, I do understand that I am expressing the fact that I am glad I am able to rent a house, meaning I don't have to buy one. Anything else that you or anyone else wishes to read into that, is not really any of my concern. @magitweeter @violetmadder not everybody feels the need to own the home in which they live. From this point on, we are coming into the domain of invalidating that perspective for others. «meaning I don't have to buy one» I would say this inference is incorrect. “Buy” and “rent” aren't the only housing occupancy arrangements there are. They're the most prevalent by far in societies like yours, but eliminating “rent” doesn't mean “buy” is the only option remaining. Most likely, eliminating “rent” would leave room for many other types of housing arrangements, including some where you don't have to own the home you live in if that's not what you want. @magitweeter @violetmadder I'm happy with the inference, as it is. You're welcome to see it as being incorrect, though, but that's none of my business. You're happy that the only options for someone who wants a house to live in are buy and rent? @magitweeter @violetmadder no, I am content with the fact that those are the only "options" for *me* . @magitweeter @violetmadder oh. absolutely not, it is all about my lived experience as a renter, with a long history of renting- good and bad. @magitweeter @violetmadder it's been the same conversation. Yours truly, |
@storyworker @magitweeter @Daojoan
That home would then belong to someone else. Possibly you. It wouldn't just evaporate into thin air, revoked from existence if landlords couldn't own it anymore.
I mean, being totally zen about fully detaching your ego from caring if somebody else is in total and ultimate control of your home place and being absolutely comfortable forking over a huge portion of your income to them (enabling them to save up and buy more houses, rather than having the ability to save or buy one yourself) without any objection or problem might be a great coping mechanism and all for YOU, but it's not as if you can expect everyone to adopt that attitude. Even if we did, blissfully anesthetizing ourselves to our situation won't solve the problems of corruption and abuse being perpetrated by the robber barons exploiting this situation to vacuum away everything they can reach-- I mean I guess we COULD just sit around in the lotus position serenely while we die of wet bulb heat waves and preventable disease and all, but... that's not really my goal in life, personally.
@storyworker @magitweeter @Daojoan
That home would then belong to someone else. Possibly you. It wouldn't just evaporate into thin air, revoked from existence if landlords couldn't own it anymore.
I mean, being totally zen about fully detaching your ego from caring if somebody else is in total and ultimate control of your home place and being absolutely comfortable forking over a huge portion of your income to them (enabling them to save up and buy more houses, rather than having the ability to save...