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David Andersen

lol. gotta love crypto. I realized I had about $50 of bitcoin hanging out somewhere, so I transferred it to coinbase to sell and turn into usd.

I used an old address from coinbase's "gdax" exchange, which they merged into their new coinbase advanced.

The money disappeared. Coinbase happily told me "sorry, that product is deprecated, the funds are lost on the blockchain."

These are not serious people.

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David Croyle

@dave_andersen It seems they are quite serious about absorbing your money into theirs...

Lennard van Otterloo

@croyle @dave_andersen I think it’s worse than Coinbase taking your money.

This is like a company setting fire to your money when you handed it to them in the wrong way. You don’t have it and they don’t have it (and so they can’t give you a product or service in return).

However, as Bitcoin has a finite supply, this will never be recovered and comes with a slightly deflationary effect. One day all Bitcoins will be held by nobody.

It’s economically moronic.

kel

@dave_andersen

yup., sorry for your loss 😬

they took 11 bitcoins from me back in the day!

David Andersen

@kel ow. I hope that was only a few pizzas at the time they did so.

kel

@dave_andersen

Yeah, early/mid 00s

I was still gutted when I found out though,, even though they were not 'worth' anything like they are now, they were still legally mine.

Matt Blaze

@dave_andersen Yeah, my old fashioned fiat money gets lost when I transfer it between banks all the time. Wait, no it doesn't.

David Andersen

@mattblaze the real problem with banks is that they're too reliable. Crypto can fix that.

Ciggy Bringer of Smoke

@mattblaze @dave_andersen

I keep hearing what sounds like 'Yoink!' whenever I put my deposit in the ATM.

enoclue

@mattblaze @dave_andersen
But the banks are made of marble
With a guard at every door
And the vaults are stuffed with silver
That the farmer sweated for
-- Les Rice, a farmer

John

@dave_andersen always have question the function of things. The Fed 1913, the Fed today, Bitcoin.

James Cook

@dave_andersen Where did you find the old address? Was it still listed somewhere?

David Andersen

@falsifian yeah, I had it configured as a withdrawal address at nicehash. Nice hash blasted out an email to everyone saying they were going to start charging fees for inactive accounts, So I figured I would log in and see if I had anything there before shutting the account down, and I had what probably was $2 the last time I did any mining but was now worth lunch.

Stephen Collins

@dave_andersen I’ve got about $500 in coin sitting at Coinbase. I should extract it.

DELETED

@dave_andersen I would argue they aren't even good people as well. I would also argue they are like the people who control fleets of scammers to get money with prince Nigerian scams and other awful stuff.

I consider scammers to be so bankrupt. They are in some ways a joke to the point I made a parody of a transcript I found online.

Too bad the joke is that how can anyone believe such BS!

Like seriously?!?

You ain't getting nothing... you are losing your bank funds if anything.

David Andersen

@frostdust I view coinbase as a company that's a mix of unethical avarice and the things implied by "it is difficult to get a person to see something if their paycheck depends on not seeing it" - like the idea that just telling a customer that their money is locked away in some crypto address controlled by the company that it chooses not to be able to access is a reasonable thing to do, because "that's crypto." I mean, sure, you can choose to operate that way, but it's a choice.

brevven

@dave_andersen small claims court might work here. You sent them money and they didn't provide service. And enough claims and it might force them to improve things.

David Andersen

@brevven That could be interesting, though I assume they have some updated ToS I never read that forces binding arbitration. I should see. It could be an amusing exercise - even to just see what happens if I took them to small claims over $50.

Sometimes companies try to go nuclear when you do that to head off people thinking they can, but ... it's worth understanding the options and risks.

Jon

@dave_andersen perhaps you can claim it as an "investment loss".

Baral'heia Stormdancer ΘΔ🐲

@dave_andersen In fairness, they may not have access to or control over that wallet anymore. Kinda similar to if you do a direct bank transfer but use an old routing and account number.

Still sucks a ton tho, I'm sorry it happened to ya

RevPudDudley

@dave_andersen
Deprecated ?
Oh my, let us never be deprecated !
#shitcoin #Scam

RememberUsAlways

@dangillmor

What will people say when banks begin to offer their own bank stable coins as investments?

That will surely mark the end of banking!

Again!

Some investments a built to sell. Some are not.
Gold was less than $400 per oz in the year 2000.
I still can't use gold to buy anything or deposit gold in a bank account.

Women can use credit cards now. Crazy that was not true in the 1970s.

@dave_andersen

@dangillmor

What will people say when banks begin to offer their own bank stable coins as investments?

That will surely mark the end of banking!

Again!

Some investments a built to sell. Some are not.
Gold was less than $400 per oz in the year 2000.
I still can't use gold to buy anything or deposit gold in a bank account.

Lenora

@dave_andersen they’re serious alright. It’s a scam and they’re benefiting from it

Ryan The Red 🖥️🚲🍺🏳️‍🌈

@dave_andersen When I see signs on Coinstar machines advertising, "turn your cash into crypto", all I can think is...

Southpark investment episode with banker at computer saying "...aaaaaaand it's gone."
The Banished Dragon Alephwyr

@dave_andersen It's insane that significant amounts of Crypto just get lost and will continue to get lost in an entirely irrecoverable way. I guess this is "deflationary"

Adam Kaliszewski 🌱

@dave_andersen don't know the regulations out there, but in Poland you'd also have to pay tax for turning the nonexistent crypto into the nonexistent money ;)

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