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Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦's posts Post Back to profile
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FediThing 🏳️‍🌈

@rysiek @m

What do you think about XMPP with OMEMO?

Would be nice to have a decentralised alternative to Signal.

26 August at 11:56 | Wall-to-wall | Open on social.chinwag.org
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Mia🏳️‍⚧️🌸(too hot for you)💋

@FediThing @rysiek

I _love_ XMPP, I've run a long time a ejabberd server and it was really my favorite until now.

Especially this stuff is _fast_ and the extension system is just technically awesome.

_but_ no one uses it (ik ik WhatsApp but lets be real here, this is not XMPP as in "i use XMPP for IM")
and sadly the extension system makes it so complicated that no one has a real idea what is going on, has problems with writing others and is excessively complicated for wide adaption.

26 August at 12:00 | Open on lgbtqia.space
FediThing 🏳️‍🌈

@m @rysiek

So, if XMPP had more people using it, and it was easier to sign up, there's nothing fundamentally wrong with it?

26 August at 12:09 | Open on social.chinwag.org
Mia🏳️‍⚧️🌸(too hot for you)💋

@FediThing @rysiek

From a technical standpoint this is correct, if ppl would use the right Extensions as a collective minimum, but this will just not be the case until ejabberd etc. that these Extensions are the minimum and that they will not communicated with anything that has less.

And there is still the problems with clients, which would need to become really good for sticker (packs), voice messages, gifs, many images and videos and good search.

The XMPP clients i used back then where really fast and i liked them a lot to write with 3 friends and a bunch of bots but i think today, since facebook messanger, telegram and snapchat this is just no option anymore for it to be widely adapted.

@FediThing @rysiek

From a technical standpoint this is correct, if ppl would use the right Extensions as a collective minimum, but this will just not be the case until ejabberd etc. that these Extensions are the minimum and that they will not communicated with anything that has less.

And there is still the problems with clients, which would need to become really good for sticker (packs), voice messages, gifs, many images and videos and good search.

26 August at 12:13 | Open on lgbtqia.space
FediThing 🏳️‍🌈

@m

I've been playing around with Snikket as a potential way to get more people trying XMPP. Have you any views on it?

For what it's worth, the default Snikket app has OMEMO on by default, voice/video calls and voice messages, plus image/document/location attachments, but it doesn't have stickers or GIF pickers.

26 August at 12:26 | Open on social.chinwag.org
Michał "rysiek" Woźniak · 🇺🇦

@FediThing @m I don't have strong opinions on it other than when I tried XMPP the usability was always an issue.

I know there are projects like Snikket that made great strides on this front though.

26 August at 12:04 | Open on mstdn.social
Orca🌻 | 🏴🏳️‍⚧️
jenkinse

@FediThing @rysiek @m @xarvos

Besides Matrix, another decentralized alternative to Signal with no phone number required is Delta Chat (as mentioned by others here like @kkarhan and @andrewg). It won't support all of the same features (but it does support some features which Matrix doesn't provide, like disappearing messages) and it should be easy to sync messages between devices. Downstream Delta Lab supports Telegram stickers.

27 August at 12:48 | Open on mastodon.social
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