Gregory's ServerThis is the most amazing interactive map I have come across lately. The interface is simple. Put in a city and see what other place it will be most like in climate in 60 years, when today's children will be seniors, at current rates of carbon burning. The results are shocking - completely different biomes. Then you can compare that with what happens if we reduce emissions. https://fitzlab.shinyapps.io/cityapp
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 I think it means that their database has problems. It was very close to another place with a similar climate that has an answer. But the second part of not even describing the prediction is just a poor implementation. Okay, thanks. I got the same answer for most of the already hot places, so I figured they just change into something not yet experienced. I guess you get the same message then if the combination of climate factors really just doesn't match. It was a hot place, but it wasn't the hottest of places. Points in every direction had answers. But them refusing to even say what the conditions will be after giving that message seems counterproductive. @InsertUser I got the same thing for my second click. I'm wondering if their app isn't centered around western countries. Is there enough knowledge available about for example the African continent? If you get a result there it mentions the winters won't be any drier, but the 'winters' is in some countries the raining season. Are those getting wetter? That's the question I'm expecting to get an answer to. @fionag11 @karelbrits @InsertUser That's a great question; you should email the map creator (see Credits under Learn).  @fionag11 this is great! German environmental ministry had something similar a while ago for a set of German cities and it was scary already then - quiet people also don't understand that none of our buildings are made for the new climate. So it's not just that it's going to be hot, we are also going to be in buildings that heat up a ton because they were build for a different climate ... Last Boost : je sais pas si ça veut dire que  @fionag11 it's quite concerning. Boise, Idaho could become more like St George, Utah which is warmer. Our agriculture will suffer though we have far less now than the past since the land has been turned to housing. ☹️   @fionag11 it’s wild to me that my current area will have the same climate as Arkansas, where my dad lived when he died. I live in New England, I don’t want Arkansas climate. I’m glad I’m old. I don’t want to live in the hellscape that we are making  @fionag11 finding places with no climate analog is terrifying wow  @fionag11 This is not so certain as it makes it seem, because according to this most of the Netherlands will be like southern France, but it's also possible that it will get much colder (5 to 15 degrees Celsius) if the AMOC collapses. https://www.renewablematter.eu/en/amoc-collapse-consequences  @fionag11 It has the nearest big city NYC (which is coastal) with an analog in Arkansas (which is not). I suspect it's going to be both warmer and wetter than Arkansas is now thanks to proximity to the ocean. @fionag11 this is very cool, but I want the opposite. Show me the other cities that in 60 years will look like my city does now  @fionag11  @rednikki I've had some results across countries. Maybe what they don't do is across hemispheres.  @fionag11 Oh geez. Given that it says my area will be about 5C warmer and it's reaching 38C here some days lately, that means it will be 43C. Anything over 40 is just... I'm pretty sure just in my lifetime it has gotten notably hotter. I don't actually remember it even getting this hot in my younger years. How are people ok with this? I guess most people just figure they'll die of old age before the world becomes unlivable, so not their problem? I mean screw the future generations, right?  @fionag11 nearest analog today - bourgogne, france At least i’ll be dead  @fionag11 Interesting. The biomes don't change for my city (Ottawa) in the extreme case -- still Temperate Broadleaf and Mixed Forests -- but the temperature will certainly be higher, and the winters, shorter (we'd have the climate of southern Missouri). @fionag11 Pity it doesn’t mail a copy of the The Grapes of Wrath to everyone who clicks their home city then finds they’ll be a climate migrant…… @fionag11 currently it places my city much warmer and further south - but I wonder how that might change if the AMOC really does collapse.  @fionag11 @fionag11 That is a clever way to illustrate the magnitude of the climate changes barrelling down at us. I tried it for cities in Aotearoa-New Zealand, where I live, and by 2080 all South Island cities will have temperatures like the current climates of North Island cities, Wellington will have temperatures like current Auckland. Northern NZ cities, like Auckland, will have temperatures like Sydney, Australia. Those are massive shifts for any native species that likes it where they are now. @fionag11 while the results are significant, I still worry they are not shocking enough. In particular, this doesn’t warn about the likelihood of frequent extreme weather events, which will probably be at least as impactful as the changes in baseline climates in any particular location. |
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My first click gave:
"Future climate for this location is expected to be unlike anything currently found anywhere on Earth, so there are no climate matches for this location."
Well why have a dot for it then?
No description, no nothing?