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Cabel Sasser

Apple Intelligence in 15.1 just flagged a phishing email as “Priority” and moved it to the top of my Inbox. This seems… bad

59 comments
Chris Coleman

@cabel Hey, it's probably a priority for somebody!

Dominic Hopton

@cabel “AI” isn’t ready. And if it can fool a person, it’s certainly gonna fool a 1 year old after an extreme training regimen of 1 month.

Chuck Jordan

@cabel Apple Intelligence is recognizing those words as an important account notification.
Apple Wisdom is knowing not to click on it.

Ultramundane

@SasquatcherGeneral @cabel And I'm rolling an Apple Dexterity check to get the Magic Mouse to right click on it. (Oooh, critical fail! It's off in a Space of its own now.)

Michael Gemar

@cabel How does this kind of thing not get tested?!

Deuchnord

@michaelgemar @cabel that's the problem with AIs: by definition, they can't be tested entirely, because nobody really knows what they will reply to a given request. They only give replies based on some probabilities ("predictions") that have been computed from data before.

Michael Gemar

@Deuchnord @cabel Right, but these issues crop up *so* quickly after their release — are they not testing at all, or at least some obvious edge cases? I feel like no one is internally “red teaming” these models.

Deuchnord

@michaelgemar @cabel well, at least, we're speaking about a feature expected to be available for iOS 15.1, in October-November 2024. I suppose Apple will try to fix that, even though it will be hard...

Michael Gemar

@Deuchnord @cabel I would have hoped these highly-publicized features would be more fully baked before even releasing them as betas.

Pat Castaldo

@cabel How is no one else in this thread not talking about your frequent pork bun issues that need attention?!

Cabel Sasser

@patc Hahahahah Ramp really needs me to provide my Pork Bun receipts —Normal Work Sentence

Cabel Sasser

@aegir Fortunately, yes! Which is great. It’s one checkbox:

dmd

@cabel @aegir Thanks, I’ve been wondering about this ever since WWDC!

Does it turn off Siri too? In other words, is Apple Intelligence now a hard requirement for continuing to use Siri? Just curious.

ThatKomputerKat :neocat_cool:

@cabel so intelligent. :neocat_think_googly:

Do not want :neocat_reject:

Cabel Sasser

(If you’re at Apple, by using the wild new 'Rate Your Experiences’ feedback system I apparently filed a bug on this: FB14656882)

damien

@cabel feels like if it’s only using the mail’s body it’ll be almost as easy to trick as humans 😬

Cabel Sasser

@Eramdam Absolutely!! Write an appropriately urgent-sounding spam message and surely the AI will give it credence and credibility by putting it in its own special little important section

damien

@cabel yep… I hope they’re smart enough to take email headers into account even if that’ll be tricky to like, prompt or something but it really is the only way to work around this I feel 🫠

And/or Mail should start being able to tell the user when an email is a phishing attempt/spoofing by checking SPF/DKIM records and such. Thinking a bit too much about email because of work 😭

GadgetGav

@cabel Guess that’s not really a surprise to anyone. Has anyone found a use case or implementation of AI that couldn’t be done better without it?

🍉

@cabel and humanity is burning down the rainforests for this smdh

Tenkoman

@cabel The spam filter is also broken for a few months now (and sadly still not fixed) :/ (what the frick is Apple's mail team doing?)

Marco :prami:

@cabel AI is totally ready for prime time.

djf1107

@cabel what if its a plot by apple so people think microsoft is a scam

Christoffer S.

@cabel LOL

This is hilarious. What could possibly go wrong with all this intelligence put in every nook and cranny?

Love it, thanks for sharing! 🙂

Robert Kattanek

@cabel @ismh86
Okay, I am not sad anymore for (initially?) missing out on these features due to living in the EU…
/cc @gruber

Jeff

@cabel This has been my experience with AI in a nutshell: it’s always going to be slightly bad enough to be horribly wrong.

Matt Zagaja

@cabel answers the question of “if AI is so good why do I still get spam”

a Witty Name

@cabel it is Not ready for public release yet, obviously. Oh wait it’s also Beta.
Isn’t that the purpose of Beta software?

Sean

@cabel I guess that’s why it’s a beta.

Daniel

@cabel can you disable Apple intelligence from working in specified apps?

ℍ𝕠𝕨

@cabel Apple is pretty shit, their UI sucks and is buggy. And they often have code issues like those, or worse. I don't understand why people still uses and pays them...

Dragoniff

@cabel thank god for corporate software, amiright?

kingdom krumb

@cabel We’re moving quickly towards an AI vs AI world. Soon you won’t be able to trust anyone who isn’t standing right in front of you.

Wesley de Groot 🥷:clippy:

@cabel if you are a security researcher / spam blocker this _may_ be on your priority list.

V is for...

@cabel nobody said it would be good intelligence.

Toph Allen

@cabel I’ve found the iMessage notification summaries to be laughably bad too. Misinterprets some part of the message like a quarter of the time maybe? Hard to tell because it stands out so clearly compared to the times it does it well.

rowmyboat

@cabel A pretty fundamental problem with LLMs — they are unavoidably literal. Absolutely take every word at face value because it’s impossible for them to do anything else.

Detmar

@cabel @adulau I will not buy this rrrecorrrd it is scratched

rehacked.substack.com Dainius

@cabel just return back me the dumb af simple inbox as it was in 1990's and I can sort it out. No apples, no pears, no windows :)

Cabel Sasser

In a hilarious follow-up, my dad forwarded me a phishing email just to check with me if it was legitimate. I wrote back and said “Definitely not!”. He wrote back and explained, "I got suspicious.”

This is how Apple Intelligence summarized my dad’s emai

Jason Petersen (he)

@cabel … your dad is running the beta?

Or does intelligence show summaries for outbound?

Cabel Sasser

@jason @cabel summaries for inbound. He sent me the email that said “I got suspcious” and this was my summary.

Dave 🧱 :cursor_pointer:

@cabel 🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️

GadgetGav

@cabel AI, whether Apple “Intelligence” or whatever is just so bad. So not ready for prime time. This will tank APPL when it launches.

Nuno & Lua :DsaprvingLua:

@cabel what you get when a bunch of managers instruct everyone to use "latest AI" on everything, when a simple decades old approach based on rules and simpler ML would have caught that.

Steve

@cabel as someone who is also asked to verify the legitimacy of emails, I hope this tool improves or it’ll exacerbate an already big problem with phishing email attacks

David Blue ※

@cabel so far on my end it almost seems like somebody accidentally left a negative value in the proverbial "target priority" variable lol.

... on a serious note though, given what we know about LLMs... how could they ever be actually good at junk mail parsing ???

*unless* you really did prompt...

"everything *you* gauge to be a priority goes straight to junk and all the stuff you were junking before gets flagged."

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