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Shrig 🐌

@fedilore I didn't read this whole essay tbf, but this was a very disingenuous thread in the opening parts at the very least. In my own essay:

You've framed this as action that should be taken against .art by people that care about the safety of queer users, and gone on an attack against a Black trans person and neglected to reveal that fact (do *you* care about them?
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Shrig 🐌 replied to Shrig

@fedilore
That "death threat", that was very obviously an uncredible and exasperated plea for somebody to fuck all the way off already and stop crossing very clear boundaries and was in response to ongoing harassment they were facing by a furry.engineer user that their admin wasn't doing anything about.
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Shrig 🐌 replied to Shrig

@fedilore It's heartbreaking that it had to get that far and *still* didn't work, because they're *still* being harassed and mischaracterised and their own queerness erased within threads like this to push some sort of ".art iz bad because they blocked my friend omgzz" message.
What use of language and actions would have been acceptable to you in the face of racist stalking harassment? Does it even matter? Would anything at all have worked?
Or: Just leave them alone already. Jeez.
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Dee Fedilore 🦦 replied to Shrig

@Shrigglepuss If you don't want people talking about this stuff, then bring it up with WelshPixie.

There hasn't been a single time in the last year that queer people started this drama

This whole thing had died down, until WelshPixie wrote a blog post slandering queer communities.

Dee Fedilore 🦦 replied to Dee Fedilore 🦦

@Shrigglepuss

Queer people, outside of a handful of big cities, cannot safely organize locally. Queer online spaces are essential to the very existence of most queer community.

To specifically target those survival communities for mass-defederation, without clear documented evidence that it's necessary, is an action with genocidal purpose and genocidal effect.

lori replied to Shrig

@Shrigglepuss @fedilore there is a difference between telling someone "fuck you I'll kill you" or "white people need to be scared" or whatever and telling them "I know you live in [town], I know people in [town] that will find you, I'm there all the time, I will make you pay offline"

One of those is getting angry and the other is making extremely specific plans to track down and attack someone. One of those is an actual serious threat. Once you start naming details and making plans and being specific about their location, you're not blowing off steam anymore. That's a credible threat. People have been sent threats like that before that bystanders brushed off as probably not anything and died. Everyone here is a stranger on the internet and if a stranger on the Internet starts posting specific plans to find me where I live and come after me, then goes on to post a bunch of little posts about wanting to shoot people, I'd take it fucking seriously too. Going "I was just joking cmon I'm just a little guy" after doesn't change that.

@Shrigglepuss @fedilore there is a difference between telling someone "fuck you I'll kill you" or "white people need to be scared" or whatever and telling them "I know you live in [town], I know people in [town] that will find you, I'm there all the time, I will make you pay offline"

One of those is getting angry and the other is making extremely specific plans to track down and attack someone. One of those is an actual serious threat. Once you start naming details and making plans and being specific...

Aurora Penguin replied to Shrig

@Shrigglepuss @fedilore it's incredible how you keep brushing a death threat under the rug like it's no big deal but if someone on furry.engineer or tech.lgbt said that, we would br screenshotted and posted in your little clique of friends and we would have been black listed weeks ago

Death threats are not ok, period. The threat posted also doesn't compare to the copypasta at all. Do we really need to go to english101 to compare the navy seals copy pasta that refers to having 300 confirmed kills to "I know where you live in <city here>, I have a contact who will get me your info and come after you offline"?

It's so incredibly irresponsible for several of your group of friends to make death threats, double and triple down, why would they risk the credibility of TBS and yourself by boosting people who are doing quite possibly illegal things? archive.ph/x5OeY

@Shrigglepuss @fedilore it's incredible how you keep brushing a death threat under the rug like it's no big deal but if someone on furry.engineer or tech.lgbt said that, we would br screenshotted and posted in your little clique of friends and we would have been black listed weeks ago

Death threats are not ok, period. The threat posted also doesn't compare to the copypasta at all. Do we really need to go to english101 to compare the navy seals copy pasta that refers to having 300 confirmed kills...

Aurora Penguin replied to Aurora

@Shrigglepuss @fedilore you also clearly don't care about "block evading", since welshpixie did that right after she kicked off tech.lgbt and posted about it, the posts are still up.

Shrig 🐌 replied to Aurora

@aurorapenguin Violence, credible or otherwise, is totally fine against bigotry imo. *Any* action against bigotry is fair game if it makes it fuck off. Not a bigot? Nothing to fear then is there 🤷

Shrig 🐌 replied to Shrig

@aurorapenguin I see their entirely fake-ass and funny as fuck response to an absolute barnacle that can't let go of harassing somebody's "300" kills, and continue the fantasy of 300 more dead racists on top. You're just going to have to get over it and spend this energy on sorting your shitty mates out instead

Ahto! replied to Shrig

@Shrigglepuss @aurorapenguin are you okay and did you read the same message?

Aurora Penguin replied to Shrig

@Shrigglepuss "anyone that criticizes me is racist and white and im justified to threaten and enact violence against them", just keep repeating that to yourselves as you cheer on banning queer instances :)

Shrig 🐌 replied to Aurora

@aurorapenguin Nah, fuck off with that 👍

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