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Simon Willison

Everyone who builds web applications should read the Reckoning series by @slightlyoff infrequently.org/series/reckon

My own notes here, but you should work through the entire thing: simonwillison.net/2024/Aug/18/

Seriously, take a look at the case-study in which the California food stamps signup site takes 29.5s to become interactive on a slow rural mobile connection, and tell me we don't urgently need to do better! infrequently.org/2024/08/objec

18 August at 16:47 | Open on fedi.simonwillison.net
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Steve Freeman

@simon @slightlyoff one of the good things that uk Government Digital Service did was to develop a standard designed (as far as i can tell) for low end devices and connections.

18 August at 18:01 | Open on mastodonapp.uk
Assaf πŸ₯₯🌴

@simon websites from CA gov are exceptionally bad … it's like there's a lack of tech talent in CA … but it's not only slow rural mobile connections, it's painfully bad even on iPhone 15 Pro with super-fast 5G connection (not to mention endless bugs, broken links, etc)

18 August at 18:29 | Open on mas.to
Just Bob πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡²β™’πŸ§

@simon @slightlyoff

Killing all the tracking code to Google and all corporates makes our services on MPAQ, very fast. We are even working on self hosting a hit counter 😜 outsourcing is a major draw on performance.

18 August at 23:19 | Open on beamship.mpaq.org
Bill Zaumen

@simon @slightlyoff It is not just javascript. In spite of a high-bandwidth connection, I've been getting very bad response loading web pages recently. After diagnosing the problem, I found that there was 76% to 91% packet loss on DNS requests to the servers my ISP configures! I'm about to file a service request, but in the meantime, I changed DNS servers to publicly available ones.

What made it worse was the number of DNS requests now needed to load a web page.

19 August at 0:30 | Open on fosstodon.org
Tursilion

@simon @slightlyoff
Nice to see someone writing about this. I was working in China for 18 months, and the Great Firewall and large numbers of people meant that internet back to the states was very, very slow and very lossy every day. Most US sites were nearly unusable - I was able to get much of the information I needed only by using download managers that would fetch the data with all the needed retries, and viewing it offline. At the time I wondered just how badly people even in the US with slower internet could even cope.

@simon @slightlyoff
Nice to see someone writing about this. I was working in China for 18 months, and the Great Firewall and large numbers of people meant that internet back to the states was very, very slow and very lossy every day. Most US sites were nearly unusable - I was able to get much of the information I needed only by using download managers that would fetch the data with all the needed retries, and viewing it offline. At the time I wondered just how badly people even in the US with slower...

19 August at 10:39 | Open on furries.club
razze

@simon @slightlyoff I don't think saying Javascript is the cause of this is honest or helpful.

19 August at 17:52 | Open on osna.social
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