@mav uBlock isn't the end all

@mav Iam now trying to change my workflow to text based browsers, at least on PC.

@mav other Chromium browsers like Vivaldi still support it (for now at least).

@mav @Fruan I actually don't hate Edge. Its aggressive marketing is a problem, but the browser itself works and seems more performant than Chrome. I acknowledge that Google owns Chromium but they seem not to have a say about whether Edge keeps the old extension framework around, which is telling. I'm mostly a Firefox person but my backup browser was Chrome. Now I guess it'll have to be Edge.

@mav Worth noting, relying an a browser extension to block ads is only partially effective at best.

A pihole will block ALL ad traffic and tracker traffic at the DNS, so every device you own is protected. This includes very chatty devices like Alexa, smart TVs, and non-browser apps on your computer that all like to phone home.

The majority of what my pihole is blocking is telemetry, not ads.

https://pi-hole.net/

Not trying to "um actually", just spreading the word.

@mav what do you think about Ecosia?

@mav Imagine being an Android and Chromebook user, who uses GMail, Chrome, Youtube, etc. Google basically owns your digital life. There's no getting out of that situation gracefully.

@mav and Google pays Mozilla how much per year?

@mav what about Safari? At least it’s not Google.

@mav @trending_bot I honestly don’t understand why so many people have continued to insist on using Chrome despite years of Google’s anti-consumer behavior. And, at this point, we need some government(s) to step up and help fund Mozilla for the good of the internet. It was obvious we were headed back to the bad old days of Internet Explorer ages ago, but, as with climate change, but just won’t be inconvenienced even mildly.

@mav Arc has at least promised to support Manifest v2 until 2025 and is supposedly working on a built-in ad- and tracker-blocker in the mean time.

https://resources.arc.net/hc/en-us/articles/25540117353623-What-Happens-to-Ad-Blocking-in-Arc-when-Google-upgrades-to-Manifest-V3

@mav If a business model can not survive ad or spam blocking, it does taste a bit like a scam

@mav Got damn Google

@mav interesting, do you have some links to @Vivaldi going this route ?

@mav

It's not intrusive ads I'm worried about. It's malicious ads.

@mav Safari still exists and such.

@mav I’m always surprised that people actually use #chrome. I know I shouldn’t but I am.

@mav it's not useful to me, considering Firefox doesn't respect my language choice, plus several key extensions don't exist.

@mav and they always manage to spin it as something good for us ❤️

Yeah it's dangerous to execute externally hosted JS...then why the fuck are you trying to force me to execute the injected JS of a thousand fucking trackers and ads?? 🤬

Oh that's right, cause you're an ad delivery company that happened to also build a web browser

@mav reminder ro use https://pi-hole.net/ with lots or blocklists: https://github.com/RooneyMcNibNug/pihole-stuff/blob/master/adlists_config.txt

for network-wide blocking.

@mav You are making the assumption here that no other browser has a built in blocker and that is a false assumption.

@mav Yes, Firefox is one of the remaining browsers, where an extension can slurp up any secret and post them to a remote location without anyone noticing.

And ublock origin could have with pretty small reduction in usefulness converted to the new api years ago.

@mav
Without Google, Mozilla is dead I the water. Google controls Mozilla, too.

If I were a Firefox user, I’d be paying close attention to the antitrust news right now. Because Mozilla’s spigot of money is at risk.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-05-05/why-google-keeps-paying-mozilla-s-firefox-even-as-chrome-dominates

@mav
The only reason "#Chrome" dominates the browser market is b/c it comes preinstalled on every #Android phone & Chromebook.

Exclude those, and only count browsers that people take the time to install & use, and their market dominance would be a fraction of what the numbers claim.

Before #Firefox, I used Netscape. So I guess I've been a #Mozilla user since the beginning.

@mav i no longer use a browser on my phone,have not for a while,thanks google

@mav Welcome, Google Chrome users. Mozilla Firefox is straight ahead. Firefox Nightly is to your right. Make sure to leave a donation so you close your causal loops. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/

https://www.mozilla.org/firefox/channel/desktop/#nightly

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Causality